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I picked up this new, leftover '23 Willys on 4/5 and got a 2 1/2" leveling kit on it Sunday. Next are 3/4" spacers for the rear, a bumper so I can mount the winch off the JKU I traded in, and a front track bar to get the axle centered again. Then saving for some 5.13s and 37s!
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Yeah, I'm stoked. The mod list is very long... :CWL:
 

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Very nice!! Welcome and get your bank account ready, lol. This is my "ex" Willys. It started life as a 21 Willys but there's not much Willy left. I have Rubicon Axles with 5.13's and 37's. You'll LOVE that combo.

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Very nice!! Welcome and get your bank account ready, lol. This is my "ex" Willys. It started life as a 21 Willys but there's not much Willy left. I have Rubicon Axles with 5.13's and 37's. You'll LOVE that combo.
Yeah, that's badass. I won't be switching housings, but if all goes well I'd like to truss these, add lockers, and of course the 5.13s. It'll be a slow build but I'm already in love with it!
 

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Yeah, that's badass. I won't be switching housings, but if all goes well I'd like to truss these, add lockers, and of course the 5.13s. It'll be a slow build but I'm already in love with it!
I wanted lockers and started shopping around. I crunched the numbers and the cost of adding lockers was nearly the same as finding a set of Rubicon take offs with lockers already in. Plus the Rubi tubes are 1-1/2" wider and 2mm thicker tube walls than the lower trim levels. Wide track axles are 10mm all others are 8mm thick. There is some debate about this but I have confirmed this to be true. Anyway, I was fortunate enough to find a set of take offs with 5.13's already installed. Maybe some day I'll truss these too.
 

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2mm thicker tube walls than the lower trim levels. Wide track axles are 10mm all others are 8mm thick.
Gonna need to see the notes on this one, because noone has proven that so far so if you did then you'll want to scream it from the rooftops lol.

Also, nice Willys!
 

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Gonna need to see the notes on this one, because noone has proven that so far so if you did then you'll want to scream it from the rooftops lol.

Also, nice Willys!
My inside and outside micrometers do not tell lies. As I stated, I verified this to be true. I bought a set of RCV tube seals to install in my Rubicon axle tubes. They were right at 2mm too big on the OD to fit in the tube. I ended up making my own based on my tube dimensions and the design of the bought parts. I then installed the RCV tube seals in my wife's Overland and they fit like a glove. I actually measured the ID and OD of the Rubicon tube and the wall thickness is truly 10mm. Now both tube sets are from the 20 model year so I can't verify anything outside of that year.
 

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My inside and outside micrometers do not tell lies. As I stated, I verified this to be true. I bought a set of RCV tube seals to install in my Rubicon axle tubes. They were right at 2mm too big on the OD to fit in the tube. I ended up making my own based on my tube dimensions and the design of the bought parts. I then installed the RCV tube seals in my wife's Overland and they fit like a glove. I actually measured the ID and OD of the Rubicon tube and the wall thickness is truly 10mm. Now both tube sets are from the 20 model year so I can't verify anything outside of that year.
Interesting! Good to know. I'd be interested to see if the difference continued through future years, since they consolidated alot of other parts that were previously different between models (like the fuse array, etc.)
 

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Interesting! Good to know. I'd be interested to see if the difference continued through future years, since they consolidated alot of other parts that were previously different between models (like the fuse array, etc.)
I have the dimensions written down in my shop and will provide them when I get a chance. I don't want to put info out based on a 3 month old guess, lol. My brain doesn't work that efficiently any more.
 

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Interesting! Good to know. I'd be interested to see if the difference continued through future years, since they consolidated alot of other parts that were previously different between models (like the fuse array, etc.)
So here are the actual numbers I measured
Wide track axles
O.D.- 2.760
I.D.- 1.965
2.76-1.965=.790
.790Ă·2=.395 (per side)
.395=10mm thick tube walls
Non wide track axels:
O.D- 2.760
I.D.-2.090
2.76-2.09=.67
.67Ă·2=.335 (per side)
.335=8.5mm thick tube walls

Debate or not, these are true measurements I took off the Rubicon axel tubes that are in my truck and the non Rubicon axel tubes in my wife's Overland. You'll notice the O.D. is the same but the difference is in the I.D. there is .125 difference in the I.D. which is 3.2mm. 3.2mm Ă·2=1.6mm per side difference. Also, all these measurements are on the front axel. I never measured the rear.
 

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Hm, super interesting! Very small though, makes me wonder if it’s intentional or a casting variance. Assuming they cast them the same way that iron pipe is cast. Thats a rabbit hole that we probably won’t find answers to though.
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