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I'm also only getting 15 to 16 mpg with my manual Rubicon, but I still have less than 600 miles. Other reports say the fuel mileage gets better after the 300 mile break in period.
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Knowing nothing about cars, is staying in the lower gears crushing my gas mileage? Seen people on here getting 18-19 mpg. I’m at 14.2. Only had the thing a week so that might not be accurate. I’m on 35s and not much highway driving, still figured it would be better then that.
You still might be in the engine break in period. I think the most efficient way to get the most out of your mpg is to quickly accelerate (not racing) to your desire speed and then cruise as much as you can without giving it much gas. So if you want to cruise you have to stay at the lower rpms. I'm driving 95% city with moderate traffic and getting around 17 to 18mpg. The few times I was on the highway I was getting easy 20 mpg.
 

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Going from an '06 TJ Rubicon (I6 and 6 speed manual) to the JT with a 6 speed manual is a real trip. The lack of low end torque with the v6 and the choices of ratios for the transmission cause me to question the choice of the manual trans in the JT. I love to drive the TJ and so far, am struggling with getting used to the JT - hopefully more experience with it will result in a more enjoyable ride.
I am in the same boat. I love my JT, but I do miss the low end torque.
 

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So, you still running 37s with 4:10? Any issues? Did you recalibrate Speedo? Does the 3.6L have enough power? ;{
Still running it like that. I did not recalibrate the speedo. It’s only a couple weeks old so getting the feel for it then maybe rehear and recalibrate. Thinking 4:88 would be a good gearing
 

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Still running it like that. I did not recalibrate the speedo. It’s only a couple weeks old so getting the feel for it then maybe rehear and recalibrate. Thinking 4:88 would be a good gearing
So, question is... how’s it run and handle now? Before regearing? ;{
 

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Ammy hour question but what’s it mean to regear? what’s the diff between 4.10 or 4.88?
 

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Man you guys are stirring my curiosity. Manual is my first choice, that's a given. My question for the discussion is.

How does the truck do running 70 - 80 as a regular diet? GA, so not to hilly on the highway, a bit more the back roads, do not want a slug.

Current truck 99 5.3 chevy 1500.

Then there is the gear, with the Overland and 18in wheels, a 3.73 gear. Comparing that to the Rubicon, 17in wheels, and a 4.10, One would thing the Overland will have a better MPG ratio.


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Man you guys are stirring my curiosity. Manual is my first choice, that's a given. My question for the discussion is.

How does the truck do running 70 - 80 as a regular diet? GA, so not to hilly on the highway, a bit more the back roads, do not want a slug.

Current truck 99 5.3 chevy 1500.

Then there is the gear, with the Overland and 18in wheels, a 3.73 gear. Comparing that to the Rubicon, 17in wheels, and a 4.10, One would thing the Overland will have a better MPG ratio.


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The Overland is marketed for “Overlanders” traveling long distance, mostly pavement, some off-road. But very MPG oriented. Rubicon is marketed for off-road Wheelers and Crawlers, who basically use pavement to get to their off-road locations. MPG ranks low on the off-road Wheeler’s priority list. 40’s reduce MPG. Towering lifts reduce MPG. Dana 60’s & 80’s reduce MPG. Beefy low torque differentials reduce MPG. Hellcat and Hemi engine swaps, reduce MPG. All of the above rank higher on a “Wheeler’s” priority list than MPG!
Two different trucks for two different sets of enthusiasts. ;{
 

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Ammy hour question but what’s it mean to regear? what’s the diff between 4.10 or 4.88?
Regear is changing the size of the gears in the differential. A different gear ratio allows more torque to be applied to different gears, depending on what you want. More torque in low range gears gives you more jump off the line, more low range pulling, or climbing, power, etc... more torque in the upper range gears gives you more speed, in higher gears, at lower rpm... like overdrive, for highway cruising. The Rubicon’s factory gear ratio, 4:10, is FCA’s effort to provide the best all-round gear ratio for both scenarios. ;{
 
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Man you guys are stirring my curiosity. Manual is my first choice, that's a given. My question for the discussion is.

How does the truck do running 70 - 80 as a regular diet? GA, so not to hilly on the highway, a bit more the back roads, do not want a slug.

Current truck 99 5.3 chevy 1500.

Then there is the gear, with the Overland and 18in wheels, a 3.73 gear. Comparing that to the Rubicon, 17in wheels, and a 4.10, One would thing the Overland will have a better MPG ratio.


What say you?

Pep
If you're used to V8 power, you're going to be a little disappointed in the JT. It does not have a ton of torque, and will definitely feel a bit sluggish.

Both the Sport and the Overland will feel a little "peppier" due to the smaller diameter and much more light weight tires. The 33" Falken Wildpeaks are a staggering 63 lbs. Per tire!

On one hand I'd say definitely go for a model with 4.10 gears, but on the other hand, I think either way with a manual you'll eventually want to regear especially if you ever want ro run 37s.

Bottom line, in stock form my Rubicon manual is perfectly acceptable driving around town, no issues at all. It is just a little slow. But it's not a sports car, it's a Jeep! I have gotten completely used to the clutch and really love it.
 

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So, you still running 37s with 4:10? Any issues? Did you recalibrate Speedo? Does the 3.6L have enough power? ;{
Shameless post jumping, but I have the Mopar kit and 37s and stock 4.10s. Tazer for the size change, sorted. Power is plenty. Not thrilling, but more than adequate. Run the RPMs higher and it feels peppy... for a brick on 37s. Just have to have your perspective screwed on straight... it's a Jeep with a bed on big honking tires! It's great!
 

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Well, you have to admit, it IS odd that they made 2nd thru 6th taller in this new trans. Why on earth would you do that on a Jeep? That was a stupid move on their part. And it only exacerbates the already low torque of the engine.

This trans has been in Jeeps for two years now and I've always thought they pushed it toward fuel economy more than driveability.
This is no doubt. It's EPA oriented. But I'll take it, so that it will continue to exist, and the beauty of the manual is I can defeat their meddling with a downshift!

And if you think of it, you're just in a different gear than you're used to at a certain RPM. Once you get your brain retrained, it's all good. I still catch myself smiling as I grab gears when I realize me and the Jeep are doing this together.

Never did that putting it in D and pushing the pedal on the right.
 

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Knowing nothing about cars, is staying in the lower gears crushing my gas mileage? Seen people on here getting 18-19 mpg. I’m at 14.2. Only had the thing a week so that might not be accurate. I’m on 35s and not much highway driving, still figured it would be better then that.
Yeah, it's an RPM game, low as you can go and still go. I do more babying than standing on it, and I'm averaging close to 17 running 37s. I run 5 and 6 on flat and downhill, coast a fair bit to stops. Go fast slowly.

I still haven't taken a longer trip in it, but in a few medium ones it's noticeably higher. I don't think it's much more than warmed up going back and forth to work. That plays a part too.
 

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Knowing nothing about cars, is staying in the lower gears crushing my gas mileage? Seen people on here getting 18-19 mpg. I’m at 14.2. Only had the thing a week so that might not be accurate. I’m on 35s and not much highway driving, still figured it would be better then that.
I can get near 18 with mixed city and 55 mph highway use. Mileage drops like a rock once you hit the open road. About 15 mpg at 70 and more like 12-13 at 80.
 

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Well I drive 80 constantly so that explains my mileage! Hahahahaha
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