Former Sport owner: Differences between Mojave and Sport manual

[dcmdon]

It's the same issue with a loaded willys, which shouldn't be much of a surprise as it's just another trim of sport.

$2355 difference between a willys with 8.4 and a rubi/jave. Granted willys has remote start as std while the rubi and jave do not, but for people who want manual or cold weather anyway, that's meaningless, and for people who dont want either but do want remote start, it jsut changes the math from $2355 to $2850. There's a TON of stuff in a rubi or jave that justifies another $2355 over a willys.

The value proposition with the Willy's is as a strippie. A base truck gives you everything you need for good off road performance (does it come with a limited slip? ) for not much money.

4.56 is definitely over geared for 33's. You wouldn't want that when now towing which is likely far more of your driving than towing. I used to tow my Razr and 2 heavy quads up that route and back with my Nissan Frontier. It did it, but you had to work the engine. 3.6 is the same, it needs to be up in the RPM's where it makes power to pull up those hills. Feels a bit odd at first, but its how it was designed to run, power & torque at higher rpm.

I agree completely. And when towing you just put the AT in manual mode on the highway and hold it in 7th. Then you have gearing that is actually a bit lower than 8th gear with 4.56s.

Based on some back of the napkin math using known transmission ratios and an average circumference for a set of 285/70-17s. I come up with this.

4.10 gears at 70 mph
8th - 1890
7th - 2420
6th - 2950

4.56 gears
8th - 2100
7th - 2690
6th - 3280

So you can see that 4.10s in 7th is actually lower than 4.56 in 8th.
The pentastar, like any modern engine can be run for WEEKS at redline. A few hours at 3000 rpm is not going to hurt it.

Remember that its the overall ratio that determines how "hard" the engine is working. Overall ratio is transmission ratio x transfer case ratio x axle ratio. You can't look at axle ratio alone.

As a fan of high performance Subarus, this comes to mind.

https://subarudrive.com/articles/15-2-legacy-endurance-record-attempt

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