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I am certain that Biden is less corrupt. That said, I also know that voting for a guy who is dying and/or losing his mind means a vote for the VP. And Harris is one horrible human being.

I will no longer vote at all. It's worthless. People who continue to vote for one of the two pieces of crap before us have no room to complain when we get crap. You voted for it, by voting against the perceived bigger crap. It's a joke. Legitimizing this system by continuing to play in it is bad.
I'm not, re: Ukraine for starters. As obrianmcc said I also like Trump because he is not afraid to make decisions, he may not be the best, but he certainly is getting things done.

With the Dems strong push to the far left things could get ugly for the middle class and many others very quickly
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We are Cuban refugees, from long ago. Parents worked hard, we had home businesses, and I started my first business in fifth grade. Dropped out of high school, and have run/sold a few businesses since then. "Only in America" can a high school dropout refugee own a phone company and live in an upper middle class house with a $60k truck parked outside!

I'm 100% convinced that the Great Orange Leader is a corrupt moron, with the intellectual maturity of a three year old. That doesn't make me anti-American, but the right extremists automatically call me that.

Back on Goodyear, there was a slide from an outside diversity company that included some things that seemed rather left-leaning. They have since clarified their official position. Some might choose to call them liars. The same people who watch Cheeto Jesus lie outright and then defend him.

Hey, has anyone noticed that we are screwed in this next election, no matter what?
Iam glad you and your family are here and prosperous. Your voice and vote will be needed as younger Americans, educated by marxists, will demand a more "progressive" or democratic socialist government. Ive seen them in my state and they are very determined and they have a party that pays them lip service.

Trump has been corrupt. He admitted so in the debates and in interviews. He donated to politicians as a businessman because that's the way our country works and we are gullible enough to keep politicians like Biden in government for half a century.

Democrats are getting to the point of where Republicans were in 2015 when the establishment tried to force jeb Bush on us. Another weak republican like Mitt and McCain that turn the other cheek and get skewered by every major network 24/7. Their party is for itself rather than the people just like many Republican establishment politicians.

America is sick and broken right now and it isn't because of bigotry or racism, sexism, climate change or gun control, its because one party and every major network profits off of division and sensationalized news.
 

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I could never in good conscience vote for either set of candidates.

At least one thing great has come of all the rioting and looting, gun control is DONE FOR! Americans are figuring out that the police aren't going to be there, at least not when seconds count and police are minutes or hours away. My people were disarmed before being enslaved, hard to find a Cuban who is for gun control.

Climate change is certainly happening, what we don't know is whether it's anthropogenic or not, and if it is, what we can or should do about it. Unfortunately right now we have a vocal group screaming "DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW" and another group making up sarcastic memes and claiming there is absolutely nothing happening and nothing to worry about. The same with every other topic.

Why is America sick? Because people who worship one side or the other cannot see the other side, and constantly purposely mis-state their position and beliefs.
 

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America is sick and broken right now and it isn't because of bigotry or racism, sexism, climate change or gun control, its because one party and every major network profits off of division and sensationalized news.
^this.

And then COVID-19 accelerated this x 1000.
 

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I could never in good conscience vote for either set of candidates.

At least one thing great has come of all the rioting and looting, gun control is DONE FOR! Americans are figuring out that the police aren't going to be there, at least not when seconds count and police are minutes or hours away. My people were disarmed before being enslaved, hard to find a Cuban who is for gun control.

Climate change is certainly happening, what we don't know is whether it's anthropogenic or not, and if it is, what we can or should do about it. Unfortunately right now we have a vocal group screaming "DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW" and another group making up sarcastic memes and claiming there is absolutely nothing happening and nothing to worry about. The same with every other topic.

Why is America sick? Because people who worship one side or the other cannot see the other side, and constantly purposely mis-state their position and beliefs.
I wasnā€™t going to go looking for your earlier misguided point about BLM. They are political and they are violent and they espouse violence.

To be clear, the injustice, unfairness and bias based on race lives and is despicable, but BLM Is no better.

If you donā€™t believe me google the BLM response to the Recent Chicago riots and looting of stores Downtown. Iā€™ll paraphrase it for you - those were protests as those stores sell luxury items for the rich and donā€™t represent us. That wasnā€™t looting it was a protest against people with money and that is not us.

Iā€˜m sorry, but this is exactly the problem caused by those you say are trying to fix the problem.

And finally, only liberals say the country is failing. The rest of us say this is a pretty great place with opportunities to be even better. This country was founded on freedom, hard work and is a republic, not a democracy, meaning you get what you earn. Yes, we need to wipe out racism and unfairness, ensuring every individual has equal opportunity. That is opportunity, not handouts.
 

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I'm looking forward to the orange clown being physically dragged from White House.

i'll vote blue no matter who just to see him gone
 

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BLM is not political, it's about rights for a group of people who have been proven to be discriminated against. While I used to believe in the "all lives matter" thing, I've changed my mind. For a couple hundred years, the words "all men are created equal" has meant "except black men." Therefore, "all" has already been proven to be meaningless. MAGA hats would be comparable to a Biden/Harris 2020 hat, not to a group who primarily seeks to fix the problem of overly aggressive police. This is a problem we've had for a very long time. I've been speaking and fighting against this since the 80s. MAGA hats are endorsing one specific candidate.

Blue lives matter is the very definition of promoting tyranny and elevating big government's agents above others. It only exists in political opposition to something that was not political, and was only made that way by some forms of one-sided mainstream media.

I had Goodyear MT/R tires on my two previous Jeeps, and their mileage was incredible for a mud terrain. Around 50k. Also pretty nice ride, and while noisy, not as noisy as BFG muds. However I'm sticking with the stock Falkens on the JT for a long time. On replacement, I'm likely to get the same, they seem awesome so far. For our BMW, I use an off brand that works great, otherwise it would be Michelin.

So whatever to Goodyear, I'm not a customer anyway. But they are not being hypocrites, unless they start allowing a Biden hat and not a MAGA hat.
The SAYING isn't political, the IDEA isn't, the CONCEPT isn't, but check into the leaders of the group and their platform. They are as radical as it gets. They advocate complete disruption and destruction of our current systems of government.

I agree that black lives matter - of course, DUH. And we can't honestly say "all lives matter" until black lives matter in all ways. (but then, who's doing the murdering in Chicago, eh?)
I was raised that every life - including black - matters and I have always lived that way and I totally value my Black friends. But the organization, you need to dig into what their leaders DO and say and read what their agenda is.
The ordinary Black American I know isn't happy about the GROUP's agenda. It's not about equality.
Terry Crews has had some things to say about it. He's wary of the GROUP as well.
It started out great - but then turned into a modern Black Panthers.
And no, I don't watch any network news, I can't even get cable, I get my info from other resources and do my own digging and thinking.
I've asked my friends (who are black) directly - they are tired of the BS out there - referring to the radicals. They also don't like being called "African-Americans" (for one thing, not all of them track to Africa.......)
 

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I wasnā€™t going to go looking for your earlier misguided point about BLM. They are political and they are violent and they espouse violence.

To be clear, the injustice, unfairness and bias based on race lives and is despicable, but BLM Is no better.

If you donā€™t believe me google the BLM response to the Recent Chicago riots and looting of stores Downtown. Iā€™ll paraphrase it for you - those were protests as those stores sell luxury items for the rich and donā€™t represent us. That wasnā€™t looting it was a protest against people with money and that is not us.

Iā€˜m sorry, but this is exactly the problem caused by those you say are trying to fix the problem.

And finally, only liberals say the country is failing. The rest of us say this is a pretty great place with opportunities to be even better. This country was founded on freedom, hard work and is a republic, not a democracy, meaning you get what you earn. Yes, we need to wipe out racism and unfairness, ensuring every individual has equal opportunity. That is opportunity, not handouts.
The PURSUIT of happiness is a right, not the achieving of same...........there's no guarantee. You have to want it and reach for it.
 

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Companies are scared to death to think critically or even appear to push back. Iā€™ve got no opinion on this but Iā€™ve also never had any luck with Good For a Year tires either. The few Iā€™ve had over the years start off great but wear like crazy.
85K miles 30 inch Goodyear GSA on 2005 Unlimited, still had good tread when I removed for 32x11.5 Kumo installs.
 

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Bottom line - be VERY VERY careful of what you find, see, hear, especially on the internet. Images like posted about GY are so easily faked and passed along as fact. Both sides do it - be real. Text is left out, context left out, a word missed or added, and there are deep-fake videos (Not a fan of Pelosi but geesh, the video trying to make her look drunk - crap like that typically backfires and makes ya look dumb and unbelievable if you do try to tell the truth later.)

My beef is companies (not referring to Goodyear) that bend to 10% or less of the population - and that's all some of this is - 10% or LESS being magnified by the press to make points or fill an agenda.
Every company should be FAIR, unbiased, treat everything and every one in a neutral way.
The fact is this country is fairly evenly split, maybe off by a few degrees, but mostly in the middle. And most are not extreme left or extreme right - the bulk of the country's population sits in the middle, so why should any corporate entity bend in any direction? Want to sell, aim it straight down the middle. You'll catch most of us.
Try to play to the extreme either direction and you lose the other direction and even part of the middle. Hire as if you are blind, keep politics out of the office, don't make anyone feel threatened or unsafe, treat your co-workers as if they may be your boss some day. Do your work, worry about yourself and your accomplishments and duties, don't shove your politics or beliefs in the faces of your co-workers. A place of work should be just that. You go, do what you get paid to do - only do it better, better than your best. Wear no hats or shirts with slogans that make others want to wear their hats or shirts showing how wrong you are.
(I have to laugh after saying that, though. I used to work for Compressor Controls Corp. Founded by Russian immigrants, about half the staff were Russian immigrants by the time I worked there. One engineer I became friends with was a former Soviet military officer. His shirt had a huge American flag on the front with an image of President Reagan superimposed on the flag. You had to appreciate why almost everyone working there felt like they owed Reagan their lives - and some apparently did from what I learned)

I live treating every person the same until they do something to cause otherwise.
I don't need corporate types shoving it down my throat or preaching it to me or including it in advertising. Just DO it, don't talk about it. The more it's talked about, the more it proves we still aren't color blind.
When we stop putting people in buckets or boxes, when we use a color only to describe when it's necessary for clarity and not to DEFINE, then we'll be getting somewhere. But I don't need any corporation preaching it to me - that's how a person should be raised by family and parents, not a corporate giant. TRUE justice must come from how a person is taught and raised, not from a corporation later. If you haven't gotten it at home, the chances of you getting it by some company shoving it down your throat is pretty slim.
My parents had their prejudices, but then they were raised many decades ago in a mostly white state when beliefs were different. When push came to shove, their actions showed me what I needed to learn and know. I don't need Old Navy shoving it in my face in their commercials proving what a wonderful company they are.
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The SAYING isn't political, the IDEA isn't, the CONCEPT isn't, but check into the leaders of the group and their platform. They are as radical as it gets. They advocate complete disruption and destruction of our current systems of government.
I can agree with that while also saying that the average person wearing the hat isn't a violent racist. I say exactly the same thing about MAGA hats. The originator of those is a racist piece of crap who is so stupid he can bankrupt a casino, but the wearer isn't necessarily that. The wearer in most cases believes in the core premises.

My lefty acquaintances say a MAGA hat wearer is a racist xenophobe, automatically. My righty acquaintances say that the BLM hat wearer is a violent racist. Rinse, repeat, this is the problem in the country today.

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Numbered of Un-armed people shot to death by Police in 2019.

Black- 9
White-23

No statistics here to support systemic racist claims.
Dog killings have skyrocketed since around 2010. No nock raids, wrong house raids and just killing dogs in fenced yards stating tracking criminals or a neighbor called about a missing kid ect ect. A dog killed every 40 minutes which is insane.
 

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Dog killings have skyrocketed since around 2010. No nock raids, wrong house raids and just killing dogs in fenced yards stating tracking criminals or a neighbor called about a missing kid ect ect. A dog killed every 40 minutes which is insane.
It's such a rampant and insane problem that there's a subreddit just for memes about it.

Police were already out of control when I was a kid, in the 70s. Then in the 80s they kept getting worse, then we all-out militarized them in the 90s. My city PD has and uses armored military vehicles. Ludicrous.
 

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Any large retail company would have to be stupid to allow political displays by employees. As a sole proprietor you get to make your own decisions but you are risking the loss of business. Every large company tries to maintain an outwardly neutral face even if they are sending large pac money to one or both sides. Trump is picking a needless fight with an "American" tire company. But I doubt he cares about the facts he is just stirring the pot cause that is what he does.
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