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I took your comment about more or less people that drive bigger trucks and gladiators don't need them and lick windows and like Taylor Swift. That's the way I took your comment like anything bigger than gladiator most people driving the trucks like that don't need them
Then You should go back and read his post more carefully. It was a sarcastic comment about people that choose what truck to buy based solely on its ranking on some list.
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Then You should go back and read his post more carefully. It was a sarcastic comment about people that choose what truck to buy based solely on its ranking on some list.
and my sarcasm bag at you is not everyone does that You have your opinion with sarcasm I have my opinion with sarcasm and I can show that I'm not one of those people but you think is sarcasm funny Not everyone just goes and buys big trucks to ride around and look cool in them like your sarcasm states. How about the people that I can show you a dozen that I've seen in our club that we go to I've seen them that take gladiators and put $50,000 aftermarket into them with 40-in tires lift kits shovels the bearcat tracks axes all that s*** hanging on there The bed on top the rack with all the bells and whistles and slide out and they don't even go off-road they never go camping The beds brand new never been used I know several people that have put at least 50 to 60,000 aftermarket in their gladiators and they don't take them off road They think it's cool to have the bed on top that pops up 2 years old and the ax and the shovel still brand new never been used I mean I get it most people today do put stuff on trucks and Jeeps for cosmetic looks a lot of it is cosmetics that won't get used not everything you put on a Jeep or truck gets used It's for looks. That's just how it is there's so many things out there people will buy and put on because they think it looks cool and makes their truck or their gladiator look cool and it never gets used but that's what keeps the aftermarket people in business accessories that never get used Like I said I see so many gladiators that haven't had anything used on them with all that aftermarket accessories Not everyone goes over landing I know some people that do and it's great to have but I know some people that have never been off-road and they got the subcompact freezer refrigerator and the pool out the axes like I said the bed all that stuff they've never used it in two years looks cool riding around town every vehicle I've bought I've used for what it was purpose to to haul something heavy or ajib to go off-roading and have fun most people are weekend warriors Not everyone can go four-wheeling every weekend I get it. A lot of people have kids and have soccer games football baseball games on weekends over their family and they can't go every weekend I understand that I couldn't go every weekend We had other priorities with my kids but like I said most people are weekend warriors So back at your sarcastic is there are people that buy big trucks to pull something because you ain't pulling heavy s*** with the gladiator. I'm not going to go back and forth You can say what you want after this comment I get the alert I'm going to delete it I'm not going to go back and forth You said what you said I said what I said I'm done
 

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and my sarcasm bag at you is not everyone does that You have your opinion with sarcasm I have my opinion with sarcasm and I can show that I'm not one of those people but you think is sarcasm funny Not everyone just goes and buys big trucks to ride around and look cool in them like your sarcasm states. How about the people that I can show you a dozen that I've seen in our club that we go to I've seen them that take gladiators and put $50,000 aftermarket into them with 40-in tires lift kits shovels the bearcat tracks axes all that s*** hanging on there The bed on top the rack with all the bells and whistles and slide out and they don't even go off-road they never go camping The beds brand new never been used I know several people that have put at least 50 to 60,000 aftermarket in their gladiators and they don't take them off road They think it's cool to have the bed on top that pops up 2 years old and the ax and the shovel still brand new never been used I mean I get it most people today do put stuff on trucks and Jeeps for cosmetic looks a lot of it is cosmetics that won't get used not everything you put on a Jeep or truck gets used It's for looks. That's just how it is there's so many things out there people will buy and put on because they think it looks cool and makes their truck or their gladiator look cool and it never gets used but that's what keeps the aftermarket people in business accessories that never get used Like I said I see so many gladiators that haven't had anything used on them with all that aftermarket accessories Not everyone goes over landing I know some people that do and it's great to have but I know some people that have never been off-road and they got the subcompact freezer refrigerator and the pool out the axes like I said the bed all that stuff they've never used it in two years looks cool riding around town every vehicle I've bought I've used for what it was purpose to to haul something heavy or ajib to go off-roading and have fun most people are weekend warriors Not everyone can go four-wheeling every weekend I get it. A lot of people have kids and have soccer games football baseball games on weekends over their family and they can't go every weekend I understand that I couldn't go every weekend We had other priorities with my kids but like I said most people are weekend warriors So back at your sarcastic is there are people that buy big trucks to pull something because you ain't pulling heavy s*** with the gladiator. I'm not going to go back and forth You can say what you want after this comment I get the alert I'm going to delete it I'm not going to go back and forth You said what you said I said what I said I'm done
I only read the first couple sentences. I replied so your post is still here if you delete it.

I don't understand what you are getting so bent out of shape for. No one has said anything disparaging about you or people that drive bigger trucks. I used to be one of those people, for decades, then downsized to a Gladiator.
 
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Drove by a Phoenix area Jeep dealership today and their LCD sign out front was scrolling thru their Black Friday specials. 2023 Gladiator $15,000 discount. I've never seen one that big before and they probably only have one at that price to suck you in. Looked like they have a ton of JTs on their lot, like most of the dealers I've seen in the area.
 

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I took your comment about more or less people that drive bigger trucks and gladiators don't need them and lick windows and like Taylor Swift. That's the way I took your comment like anything bigger than gladiator most people driving the trucks like that don't need them
I only talked about people using one source in their decision making process. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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I only talked about people using one source in their decision making process. Nothing more, nothing less.
Okay I deny apologize if I misunderstood you I just got a lot going on and I might have misunderstood you so if I did I apologize I just got a lot of stuff going on right now in my life and I'm sorry
 

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You are speculating that those are long unsold - take a look around the local Ford and Chevy dealers here - lots of trucks. Would you call those unsold inventory? If you go back in a month and see the lot is still full - is that unsold inventory, or are those trucks delivered since you last drove by?
The Gladiator doesn't stay on the lots long here. Sure, each time you drive by or drive through, you see them - but my recent dealer visits have shown me that the trucks I saw a few weeks ago aren't the same ones I'm seeing now.

#1 midsize - what? In sales like you suggest? It ratings by auto blogs or magazines? In initial quality?
What you are referring to - was Jeep REALLY saying #1 SELLING, or could it be they meant #1 rated?
You are going by sales figures, but - maybe Jeep is going by some rating system, such as Forbes, which says Jeep Gladiator is #2 -
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Or maybe Jeep was referencing this site when they said Gladiator was the #1 midsize truck.
Unless you read or heard them say "best selling" - they may not have been lying - look at the scores here. Jeep beat the others by a fair margin:

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Or did they go on to say for initial quality?

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Don't know know what they were really trying to say just said #1 mid-sized truck. The reason for the lower prices on used and huge discounts on new is due to low demand and excess inventory due to low demand. Just stating the facts as I found them when it relates to #1. As for the Frontier and Ridgeline they were both at the bottom of the barrel and below the JT. The telling numbers are the Tacoma which is the undisputed number 1. I appreciate your loyalty and sticking up for the JT but the numbers are what they are.
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Lower *anticipated* demand. They’ve sold more each year, but the growth wasn’t as expected . Another way things are spun and ironically by the OP who didn’t mean to. Classic!
 

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Don't know know what they were really trying to say just said #1 mid-sized truck. The reason for the lower prices on used and huge discounts on new is due to low demand and excess inventory due to low demand. Just stating the facts as I found them when it relates to #1. As for the Frontier and Ridgeline they were both at the bottom of the barrel and below the JT. The telling numbers are the Tacoma which is the undisputed number 1. I appreciate your loyalty and sticking up for the JT but the numbers are what they are.
Lower *anticipated* demand. They’ve sold more each year, but the growth wasn’t as expected . Another way things are spun and ironically by the OP who didn’t mean to. Classic!
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You quote no numbers and I dare say you don’t know any. You are stating an opinion by driving by you local dealer. If Jeep as a corporation expects growth beyond what happens that doesn’t mean demand is down. It really is quite simple. Stop and think before you reply…
 

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It was rated number one in the midsize class for initial quality. nothing to do with sales numbers.
 

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Why assume #1 mid-sized truck means in sales? You aren't fact checking what they said you're fact checking what you interpreted. Without looking at any statistics the gladiator is the #1 convertible truck, #1 solid axle truck, #1 truck you'll see on the Rubicon trail, etc. They are obviously the #1 midsized truck amongst this forums members and the best selling among them too. You're assumptions of what #1 meant is the exact point of the wording in advertising.
 

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Ran across this from 5 months ago. Looks like the Ridgeline will outsell the Glad at close to 50k units. Honda is a real player in this segment.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/even-the-honda-ridgeline-outsold-the-jeep-gladiator-through-june
Number 1 truck shaped car in America. Trucks don't have unibodys and 4 wheel independent suspensions in my opinion. Even the El Camino was more of a truck. Sales figures have never even entered my mind when shopping for a vehicle for 2 reasons. I really don't care what "most" people want to drive and most people are idiots. If all the lemmings are jumping off a cliff to buy a Honda "truck", I'm heading the opposite direction. The only hope is enough real trucks continue to sell that all manufactures don't go the cars with beds route.
 

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You are speculating that those are long unsold - take a look around the local Ford and Chevy dealers here - lots of trucks. Would you call those unsold inventory? If you go back in a month and see the lot is still full - is that unsold inventory, or are those trucks delivered since you last drove by?
The Gladiator doesn't stay on the lots long here. Sure, each time you drive by or drive through, you see them - but my recent dealer visits have shown me that the trucks I saw a few weeks ago aren't the same ones I'm seeing now.

#1 midsize - what? In sales like you suggest? It ratings by auto blogs or magazines? In initial quality?
What you are referring to - was Jeep REALLY saying #1 SELLING, or could it be they meant #1 rated?
You are going by sales figures, but - maybe Jeep is going by some rating system, such as Forbes, which says Jeep Gladiator is #2 -
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Or maybe Jeep was referencing this site when they said Gladiator was the #1 midsize truck.
Unless you read or heard them say "best selling" - they may not have been lying - look at the scores here. Jeep beat the others by a fair margin:

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Or did they go on to say for initial quality?

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The jeep ad is directly referencing the 2023 Initial Quality Study for Midsize Trucks from JD Power. They even say this in one of the ads.
 

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Don't know know what they were really trying to say just said #1 mid-sized truck. The reason for the lower prices on used and huge discounts on new is due to low demand and excess inventory due to low demand. Just stating the facts as I found them when it relates to #1. As for the Frontier and Ridgeline they were both at the bottom of the barrel and below the JT. The telling numbers are the Tacoma which is the undisputed number 1. I appreciate your loyalty and sticking up for the JT but the numbers are what they are.

I think one important thing to note here as far as the top selling midsize truck goes, is that the gladiator is fairly new and doesnt have the name recognition as a midsize truck yet like say the tacomas, frontiers, and rangers. Also, lets be real, its a Jeep. It isnt going to be as comfortable to drive on-road and on long trips as its competition will be. For a midsize truck that is pretty much designed around being offroad, it is selling pretty darn good!
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