JT Ordering: Unavailable Options

[DesertRated]

that's true, guess I don't get the people that get them claiming they have better "ride quality" because it wasn't built to be a great daily driver, naturally the suspension is gonna be stiffer and more heavy duty because it was made for desert running, that doesn't equate for better daily driver usability

You “don’t get it” because it clear in your statement above that you don’t understand suspension systems in how it’s a sum of the parts working together: geometry, compression, damping, and spring rates.

Enjoy your Rubicon, I’ll do the same with my Mojave. It’s all good!

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[briscoelab]

I couldn't get the bed liner or headliner when I I ordered my rubicon back on Oct 3. But I did get the safety and advanced safety group. I've been sitting in D1 since then.

The chip shortage and other supply chain constraints are still major issues for multiple industries. It hasn't really gotten better at all. Just eases up in waves and then hits again. There are some many suppliers and outside vendors for something like an automobile manufacturing plant... it's amazing anything gets built in the best of times.

 

[BearFootSam]

LOL - where to start?!?

They are totally different trucks in many ways, built for different purposes, different rides, etc. as well as some accents, seats and so on that are different.




Yeah it does. I keep in touch with some industries and yeah, it makes sense.
Some of those on the list you quoted have been unavailable off and on for over a year now. The bed liner - that was off and on last year, and some of the other stuff- CHIPS. Sorry, but DUH.
Why did Toyota shut down some operations? Can't get parts. Why did it take almost a month to get a wiring harness for my snow plow? Supply chain and WORKER issues - companies are desperate for PEOPLE to work - actually work.
The company I bought my plow from said that they placed their usual order for parts and supplies to get them through an Iowa winter - months ago - they still don't have them and have no idea when they will get them. I got lucky.
They also said their industry people, suppliers and so on are predicting it to get worse. VW management says "it's going to get worse before it gets better", It's actually worse than it was last year according to people I know in various industries. It took 8 months for me to get $40 windshield wiper wiring harnesses. I bought every one I could find and then was told "we'll be able to get more in July" and that was last November. Still in short supply.

Doesn't make sense? Yeah, totally. They can't get it! It's really that simple.

I am a contracts administrator for a number of large industrial firms and my ear on the ground information concurs that supply chain issues, and worker shortages continue to persist in a variety of domestic regions. It helps to understand that just because a firm can hire workers, it does not necessarily equate to productivity. Because companies are pulling from a different candidate pool and lowering qualifications to fill roles, there are challenges with training and upskilling. One major manufacturer has had to slow their plant operations because they are backfilling seasoned manufacturing employees with candidates that have zero experience. To mitigate the safety risks involved they have slowed plant operations which in turn lowers output. This firm in particular is a major subcomponent manufacturer for automotive systems so you can see how these impacts can amplify up the supply chain. Related, if they have an equipment outage, repair parts that are backordered impact uptime and of course that impacts output as well.

The current supply chain issues are very complex and involve multiple layers of suppliers, raw materials sources and labor pools. I am actually quite impressed at how some industries have bounced back given the circumstances.

Also take note of the length of supply chains. If a particular component has a 9-month lead time the consumer facing impacts at present may be indicative of challenges early in the year rather than at this very moment.

 

[John_81583]

You “don’t get it” because it clear in your statement above that you don’t understand suspension systems in how it’s a sum of the parts working together: geometry, compression, damping, and spring rates.

Enjoy your Rubicon, I’ll do the same with my Mojave. It’s all good!

I do, have driven all of them, know which one rides the best, it's not the Mojave as a daily driver that's for sure

 

[antwon412]

I do, have driven all of them, know which one rides the best, it's not the Mojave as a daily driver that's for sure

That is purely an opinion. Your opinion. And very subjective.

Personally, I and many many others feel the Mojave is a much nicer riding vehicle.

 

[briscoelab]

Christ.... enough.

 

[ATL_Rubi]

Christ.... enough.

Agreed....who cares what is the best? (HINT: it's only those who perceive others care about their opinions and thoughts). No one truly cares, drive what makes you happy and is within your means.

 

[mert34]

We all have different ass calibrations for comfort. Pick the one that fits you best.

 

[ATL_Rubi]

We all have different ass calibrations for comfort. Pick the one that fits you best.

I'm taking "ass calibrations" and using that moving forward. I'll cite you.

 

[Reddjeep]

Well, having owned the jt rubicon I will be able to give an expert opinion. That is once I am able to order the Mojave if some of the options that are currently greyed out and unavailable to order, which, my friends, brings us full circle

 

[John_81583]

That is purely an opinion. Your opinion. And very subjective.

Personally, I and many many others feel the Mojave is a much nicer riding vehicle.

maybe you haven't driven the others to know... you also do have much better roads to drive on than I do in Oklahoma so there's that.

 

[BearFootSam]

I make sure I only test drive the vehicle I want myself to like so I don't know that my ride is better or worse. Forester to Rubicon the Jeep is very comfortable.

 

[coalcracker]

I know there really isn’t a right answer here, but does anyone have any idea of how long these supply issues tend to last or if there’s a pattern to when packages are added and removed as options to order? Like for example it sounds like the safety packages were unavailable before, but then came back to order (I just missed it), and now unavailable again. Just wondering if maybe someone has noticed a trend, like “unavailable for a month, then brought back for about two weeks, then unavailable for another month‘ etc.

It’s probably not a BAD thing that I have to wait to order (can save up more of a down payment, or maybe there will be better incentives a couple months from now when it would be delivered, since the market will slow down considerably), but I am feeling a little antsy. Ha ha.

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