Key Fob, Likes = Dislikes Poll

[Verne]

It isn't just your "SOS" key. It locks the console, glove box, and behind the seat storage we all have. It gets used! I lock things.

Realize. I don't need it much of the year in Ohio. I'll meet you half way. It doesn't need to be spring loaded with a button that sticks out.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Realize. I don't need it much of the year in Ohio. I'll meet you half way. It doesn't need to be spring loaded with a button that sticks out.

yeah, it could simply release it without a spring, and the button could be the type that is recessed just enough......

 

[Redfour5]

The Key fob with the exposed button to flip the key out./open is a major pain in the pocket.. Are you frustrated with the design of this key fob?
What cover have you purchased to limit or prohibit the opening of the Key without your input? BTW, it was modified design (at least for the 2023) The 2021 was worse.

23 was still horrible. I, however, found a key fob cover on Amazon for 10 bucks that works fantastic now after a year. The problem with the OEM fob is that stupid button that sits proud of the lines of the fob. Put it in your pocket and it will pop at least once a day... Frustrating and painful upon occasion. I'm not linking to Amazon but just search on gladiator key fob cover and a million choices pop up. I got the cheapest ten dollar once and it comes up to the top of the button "tastefully" so it's not proud of the lines. AND since it has NEVER popped out once.

Oh, it's also kind of big and square but I guess it fits somewhere right in front of the middle storage although why you would want to put it there other than from keeping the key from popping out while you drive in your pants, I can't imagine. I had a Gladiator, wife has a Cherokee and those are both just fine. My Ram fobs are great once they moved away from the plastic key end. That was a bad design.

 

[webduelist]

Realize. I don't need it much of the year in Ohio. I'll meet you half way. It doesn't need to be spring loaded with a button that sticks out.

Right like, the fob is big fine, the key is spring loaded fine, why is it on a button that sticks out and can be pressed down easily. I put a stiffer spring in mine which requires more force to press the button down which seems to keep it closed most of the time. Like at least make that release flat and you need to actually throw a switch or try to press it.

 

[Redleg37]

My sport is all manual windows and locks, so there are literally no buttons on my fob. It's still comically oversized and the key wont stay in. Just give me a key.

 

[Dmag33]

I guess if it works, it works but the aesthetics of that would bug the living crap out of me.

Can be printed in any color of choice, clear is just what I had loaded in my printer at the time.

 

[jac04]

I don't dislike the design of the fob, but I can't stand that it quits working when it gets too cold.

 

[webduelist]

My sport is all manual windows and locks, so there are literally no buttons on my fob. It's still comically oversized and the key wont stay in. Just give me a key.

The insane thing is your key actually still is using the RKE system, it still has a board on the inside that transmits codes to the RF Hub to allow you to start the car. It just has no buttons, but one with buttons would actually work to start it and could potentially remote start it if you can get past the whole doors aren't reporting if they are locked problem. You could probably even add power locks if you wanna take the time to wire them into the BCM.

Point being even without any buttons its still the same 433.92Mghz transmitter communicating with the same RF Hub :P

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I don't dislike the design of the fob, but I can't stand that it quits working when it gets too cold.

What? You mean your pocket is too cold? Or you leave it in the truck?
Mine has worked fine for years, even in 20 below temperatures.
But I don't leave the fob sitting out in the winter wind and snow, either.

 

[webduelist]

What? You mean your pocket is too cold? Or you leave it in the truck?
Mine has worked fine for years, even in 20 below temperatures.
But I don't leave the fob sitting out in the winter wind and snow, either.

Have the same problem on mine actually, I think they started cheeping out on the board caps. I took it apart and couldn't find anything wrong with it other than there didn't seem to be enough voltage making it to the the radio chip. You click it enough time and it charges up the cap and can fire off a radio pulse, but there are times when its super cold that the radio on it just loses power. The older generation FOB (you can tell by the lettering and internal battery retainer design) do not seem to have this problem.

 

[jac04]

What? You mean your pocket is too cold? Or you leave it in the truck?
Mine has worked fine for years, even in 20 below temperatures.
But I don't leave the fob sitting out in the winter wind and snow, either.

Hahaha, some of us lead a more active lifestyle I guess. It goes in my backpack while mountain biking, and we ride no matter what the temperature or conditions are.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Hahaha, some of us lead a more active lifestyle I guess. It goes in my backpack while mountain biking, and we ride no matter what the temperature or conditions are.

The solution is very simple - put it in your pocket - jacket or whatever. Can't blame Jeep for this one as you have plenty of choices I get outside, too - but it never leaves me - not very far - when out and about.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Have the same problem on mine actually, I think they started cheeping out on the board caps. I took it apart and couldn't find anything wrong with it other than there didn't seem to be enough voltage making it to the the radio chip. You click it enough time and it charges up the cap and can fire off a radio pulse, but there are times when its super cold that the radio on it just loses power. The older generation FOB (you can tell by the lettering and internal battery retainer design) do not seem to have this problem.

There's a huge difference in electronics parts - found that out with computer mother boards years ago when a company we bought computers from used cheaper caps - and after about a year, they all started to pop, meaning about 30 boards had to be replaced, and then at CCC - their Series IV controller was on the edge of possibilities, they really pushed the limits for that time with that controller. One of the manufacturers couldn't keep up with demand for a chip we used. So, the EEs got out their books and slide rules and figured an exact cross from another company would work fine. Nope, no deal. So they literally had to spec THAT exact part from that supplier, no substitutions. I found with the systems I was building for the interface for the Series IV that I was also pushing limits for that day - and had to specify exactly what card when into which slot, no deviations during manufacturing. Normally the order of cards into the bus didn't make a difference - it did on those. I would not boot if the boards were not in a specific order.

 

[jac04]

The solution is very simple - put it in your pocket - jacket or whatever. Can't blame Jeep for this one as you have plenty of choices I get outside, too - but it never leaves me - not very far - when out and about.

You obviously aren't too familiar with real strenuous physical activity in the cold. There is no way my key fob brick is going to be flopping around in a pocket - jacket or whatever - during a 2+ hour aggressive mountain bike ride. Plus, it needs to be in a place that will keep it safe in the event of a crash. But something tells me you have never crashed a mountain bike while carrying your fob.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You obviously aren't too familiar with real strenuous physical activity in the cold. There is no way my key fob brick is going to be flopping around in a pocket - jacket or whatever - during a 2+ hour aggressive mountain bike ride. Plus, it needs to be in a place that will keep it safe in the event of a crash. But something tells me you have never crashed a mountain bike while carrying your fob.

Trust me - there were days when I was out in it at -20 most of the day, working up a sweat in several layers.

I'd almost bet that you'll find the specs for that type of battery are the issue.
I haven't crashed a bike in many years - motorcycle or otherwise. I've put a heck of a lot of miles on all types (not a unicycle, though, that was my neighbor.
I even had tire chains for a bike I had years ago because I rode it all winter.

Look up the fob battery specs. That's where your issue is likely to be - not the fob itself.

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