Let's talk aftermarket clutches

[AustinL911]

Like others have noted, the factory clutch leaves something to be desired. As such, I plan on prophylactically replacing it around the same time I have the diffs regeared. I've searched online and this forum to try to find what is available out there, and I'm sort of confused by the options.

I see @Bbannongmu runs a Centerforce and seems to love it. What models do they offer? I see there is a 'Centerforce II' that appears to be backordered and a 'Centerforce Dual Friction' that also appears to be backordered. What is the difference between the two? I also thought I read somewhere that there was a redesign of these and that's why there's a delay. What's that all about?

Centerforce's kit (on Quadratec) states it includes an upgraded hydraulic system. I was unaware the factory one had an issue. Thoughts?

South Bend Clutch looks to offer some options as well, but their website isn't very clear on this. Do they offer anything? They recommend a single mass flywheel, but I can't find any on their website. Does it matter if I use a flywheel from them or not? What are the differences in the stages?

My JT is a 2nd vehicle for me (no daily driving) and is only brought out for work and occasional play. I don't mind a stouter clutch pedal feel. I just want a solid clutch that can handle some work. This Honda Civic-like clutch has got to go.

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[Frank...]

I’ve had my Centerforce dual friction on order from Quadratec since Dec 2021. Had an original ship date of Feb 15 2022, still on back order, don’t think they ever came out. Sounds like they we redesigned before they were ever released. Not sure who the holdup is on, Quadratec is a mess these days. Think the dual friction is just a beefier version of the Centerforce II. Check some of Bbannongmu’s threads, he goes into detail on it.

 

[Bbannongmu]

Like others have noted, the factory clutch leaves something to be desired. As such, I plan on prophylactically replacing it around the same time I have the diffs regeared. I've searched online and this forum to try to find what is available out there, and I'm sort of confused by the options.

I see @Bbannongmu runs a Centerforce and seems to love it. What models do they offer? I see there is a 'Centerforce II' that appears to be backordered and a 'Centerforce Dual Friction' that also appears to be backordered. What is the difference between the two? I also thought I read somewhere that there was a redesign of these and that's why there's a delay. What's that all about?

Centerforce's kit (on Quadratec) states it includes an upgraded hydraulic system. I was unaware the factory one had an issue. Thoughts?

South Bend Clutch looks to offer some options as well, but their website isn't very clear on this. Do they offer anything? They recommend a single mass flywheel, but I can't find any on their website. Does it matter if I use a flywheel from them or not? What are the differences in the stages?

My JT is a 2nd vehicle for me (no daily driving) and is only brought out for work and occasional play. I don't mind a stouter clutch pedal feel. I just want a solid clutch that can handle some work. This Honda Civic-like clutch has got to go.

So I went with Centerforce dual friction. From my research this is a grippier surface and a bit more pedal effort. Since I tow and off-road it seemed like a no-brainer. The CF2 is supposed to be more like stock clutch feel. Both Centerforce set ups are single mass flywheel with a heavier flywheel.
I reused the factory hydraulics because the new system was being designed by Centerforce. I just got a notice that my new hydraulics shipped from Centerforce. We’ll see what change if any this bring.
My gut tells me that Jeep or their supplier screwed up the manual transmission. The statement I read stated that the factory specifications were inconsistent.
I’m still loving the new clutch and I’m gearing up for a 5,000 mile round trip from PA to Yellowstone and back in late July. I’ll have a lot more to report after that. Good luck !

 

[NachoRuby]

Like others have noted, the factory clutch leaves something to be desired. As such, I plan on prophylactically replacing it around the same time I have the diffs regeared. I've searched online and this forum to try to find what is available out there, and I'm sort of confused by the options.

I see @Bbannongmu runs a Centerforce and seems to love it. What models do they offer? I see there is a 'Centerforce II' that appears to be backordered and a 'Centerforce Dual Friction' that also appears to be backordered. What is the difference between the two? I also thought I read somewhere that there was a redesign of these and that's why there's a delay. What's that all about?

Centerforce's kit (on Quadratec) states it includes an upgraded hydraulic system. I was unaware the factory one had an issue. Thoughts?

South Bend Clutch looks to offer some options as well, but their website isn't very clear on this. Do they offer anything? They recommend a single mass flywheel, but I can't find any on their website. Does it matter if I use a flywheel from them or not? What are the differences in the stages?

My JT is a 2nd vehicle for me (no daily driving) and is only brought out for work and occasional play. I don't mind a stouter clutch pedal feel. I just want a solid clutch that can handle some work. This Honda Civic-like clutch has got to go.

For what it's worth the clutch in a civic is much stiffer. My first car was a civic. This clutch is more akin to a recent European manual car. Very similar to my last VW, a 2019 GLI (same as a GTI, only a Jetta instead of a golf).

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