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Hello all. A guy I work with just bought a Mojave and after a week has lifted it and replaced the suspension. I can get his shocks for $500 which I think is a pretty good deal. My question is, will they work on a High Altitude diesel? I believe I read that the diesel Gladiators had different shocks to accommodate the additional weight of the engine but I didn't know about the Mojaves.
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No, they're tuned for the vehicle they're on. That wouldn't matter as much for say, a 3.6L Sport S. Diesel? No.

Why the heck would someone buy a Mojave and replace the entire suspension? Really wanted that frame with a few extra welds and the steering wheel/seats? Seems like a big waste of money.
 
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No, they're tuned for the vehicle they're on. That wouldn't matter as much for say, a 3.6L Sport S. Diesel? No.

Why the heck would someone buy a Mojave and replace the entire suspension? Really wanted that frame with a few extra welds and the steering wheel/seats? Seems like a big waste of money.
Local dealer had a leftover 21 they took quite a bit off of. It wasn't the exact Gladiator he was wanting but the deal they gave him made him pull the trigger.
 

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I’ll take that suspension for $500 and pay shipping. It’ll give me a backup set to have ready while the other gets rebuilt.
 

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If you were to get some taller, stiffer springs, 1"-2" taller, I think the Fox shocks would work on your oil burner.
 

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Hello all. A guy I work with just bought a Mojave and after a week has lifted it and replaced the suspension. I can get his shocks for $500 which I think is a pretty good deal. My question is, will they work on a High Altitude diesel? I believe I read that the diesel Gladiators had different shocks to accommodate the additional weight of the engine but I didn't know about the Mojaves.
I believe the front shock bolts are larger diameter in the Mojave shocks you can put a metal sleeve in the new shock to use the bolts that are currently on your JT, easiest way to resolve it.
 
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If you were to get some taller, stiffer springs, 1"-2" taller, I think the Fox shocks would work on your oil burner.
Would the Mojave springs provide that lift? I already have a rough country leveling kit on the front of mine.
 

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Would the Mojave springs provide that lift? I already have a rough country leveling kit on the front of mine.
No, they are not enough to carry your weight. The diesels are undersprung to start with, enough threads here testifying to that. Your shocks don't carry the weight, the springs do.
The shocks control the compression and rebound phases of travel. So with the right spring rate and height, those shocks will smooth you out.

But the shocks alone aren't a fix for the weight of the diesel and the too weak springs.

Don't feel bad, the Rubicon springs are too soft too even on the 3.6
 
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No, they are not enough to carry your weight. The diesels are undersprung to start with, enough threads here testifying to that. Your shocks don't carry the weight, the springs do.
The shocks control the compression and rebound phases of travel. So with the right spring rate and height, those shocks will smooth you out.

But the shocks alone aren't a fix for the weight of the diesel and the too weak springs.

Don't feel bad, the Rubicon springs are too soft too even on the 3.6
Gotcha. So where can I source just springs? I've never bought these things separately, I've always just bought lift/leveling kits that had springs and shocks packaged together.
 

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Would the Mojave springs provide that lift? I already have a rough country leveling kit on the front of mine.
The springs are the problem. They weren’t designed for the weight of your motor.
 

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For instance, I utilized the Max tow springs in the rear suspension to compensate for additional weight in the bed to keep my Mojave shocks inside their range of function. Works wonderful. Maybe Mojave shocks up front with your original springs? Just a thought.
 
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For instance, I utilized the Max tow springs in the rear suspension to compensate for additional weight in the bed to keep my Mojave shocks inside their range of function. Works wonderful. Maybe Mojave shocks up front with your original springs? Just a thought.
I'm thinking this is what I'll have to do. There may be some trial and error to get it right. I went ahead and got it from him. I've got a lot to play with now, they took quite a bit off. I've basically got the entire Mojave suspension to play with lol.
 

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Personally, I'd start with asking www.SynergyMfg.com questions.

They have springs as low as +1" over factory and go up from there. They are stiffer than factory but softer than most all the others.

So if they have springs for diesels then you can go probably +1" over stock. If they don't then you might look at their +2" springs. I don't think you'd need any other components for a lift because of the weight.
 

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For instance, I utilized the Max tow springs in the rear suspension to compensate for additional weight in the bed to keep my Mojave shocks inside their range of function. Works wonderful. Maybe Mojave shocks up front with your original springs? Just a thought.
Mojave shocks with his stock suspension should work, given the 1 inch lift in the front of the mojave, you may even want to go with a 1 inch spacer and the stock springs. There is a 2" zone where the shock needs to ride to be optimal.
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