Now being hounded by another dealer - wanting my truck

[legacy_etu]

oh, I've ignored 5 phone calls, several emails and a half dozen or more texts. I finally said you can't touch my numbers (and I'm not a big fan of the sales manager there who makes like he's your best Irish buddy)
They wanted me to stop in today for a "big sales event" where they have buyers lined up to bid on your vehicles...... bad timing......... my son is coming in from FL next week, the house is a mess, need to get two rooms setup up for him and my grandson, need to get groceries and such.
So their last "pleas" have been ignored.



My 2020 was sold fast as a certified pre-owned. (whatever that actually means, if it has any real meaning). Mine went to a local Des Moines person - I know because it was a bit before Sirius guardian stopped the features on it LOL)

Our trades end up being fast flips for the local dealers. I've watched our trades leave as we were coming in for other stuff just 2 days later (we'd ordered mats which hadn't arrived and something else, and there went our prior Grand Cherokee with a new owner just 2 days later!)
They love our trade-ins - always clean, low miles, easy flips for them. But getting them to make decent offers is like pulling teeth as they are, after all, dealers in it to make money.


the 2024 I drove was indeed quieter inside - granted, it wasn't a windy day and the streets weren't too bad, but I did notice a difference. I even checked my left hearing aid - yup, it's working..... (I actually did, not kidding)

I sort of wonder if that area by the cowl and even in the windshield frame itself might be insulated??????

My wife just asked me a killer question - ugh, "does the new one get better gas mileage" and I have to be honest - my gut says no, likely a whole heck of a lot WORSE than the Overland we have.
No way in heck that big beast with big heavy tires, lower gears, massive weight (a lot heavier than an Overland, I bet by hundreds of pounds) just no way it could even touch a Sport or Overland on MPG.

OK, cue in the song "can't touch this"...................

Pretty sure I read that the windshield frame has foam injected in the cavities On the 24.
Yes, mileage on the Mohave isn’t great……….but she sure is fun with the short , well spaced gears. It’s funny, my son says it sound like there’s a supercharger cause of a slight whine she has…..

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[thejeepster]

it's mid-march... weather beginning to turn for the better...
Gladiator is still the only convertible truck out there.

2024 is just the 5th year of the jeep gladiator... so, limited in used, just because of that there's only been 4 production years plus the current one...

True, there are still 2023's... but I don't think you can find any but the 'sport' model under 40k for a new one... and used, you can probably get a decent, low mileage, decently packaged glad for under 39k... so, used definitely makes sense money-wise.

 

[JW Jeep]

The thing a lot of people forget is the floor plan these dealers have and are paying on these left over 2023 Jeeps !! My God they have to be hurting some unless Jeep has waived it, they are paying each month just to have them on their lot !! That’s why the deals are so good. Jeep really screwed up on their mass production !!

 

[thejeepster]

The thing a lot of people forget is the floor plan these dealers have and are paying on these left over 2023 Jeeps !! My God they have to be hurting some unless Jeep has waived it, they are paying each month just to have them on their lot !! That’s why the deals are so good. Jeep really screwed up on their mass production !!

They are selling... and now the sun is out- supposed to be in the 50's next week...
I just checked my local dealer's site...

16 gladiators available:
15 are 2024 models, all priced above 45k..
1 is a used 2020 with 50k miles, decently equipped sport with hard top and auto and cold weather package - asking 29k... I imagine that will be gone fairly quickly...

I was surprised there weren't any 23's yet... they are disappearing.

 

[JW Jeep]

My dealer has 6 23s and no used. They also have 7 24s already giving some discounts on.

 

[Jefe1018]

It’s also tax season. I suspect people who are getting that bit of change back from the feds are putting it down on used cars. Another thing is that a lot of us mod these things they offer me 40 on trade, sell for 48-50 as “off road ready” to someone who would get a similar deal, but for a new truck without the extra $5-10k worth of mods. I know some dealers don’t want mods, but I’ve seen around here they have no problem low balling your truck because of them and then refusing to budge on their $10,000 in “mod value”.

 

[dmwphoto]

Think of the area "within 250 miles" covers - that's from you and out 250 in any direction. A circle diameter of 500 miles. That's over 196,000 square miles of area.

Like we've seen - the numbers will vary wildly from place to place.
There just aren't used ones here, and it doesn't really matter about 2023s if they of of zero interest.
They just aren't sitting around in our state in any case.
If you take pretty much our entire state - there are 370 or so. Most of those will be low-optioned JTs. Why in the world would anyone trade for a 1 year newer and LOSE the options they currently have? In 196,000 square miles, there wasn't a single one that matches the options I have - every one is missing something big.
The closest match is over 200 miles away and is missing ACC/FCW which means also missing auto high beam. All are features I use.
Still, that's a small number of 2023s left in a circle that's approaching 200,000 square miles.

I've driven through 3 different dealer lots (curious, and they weren't far out of my way to other destinations). I could count all of the 23s on those 3 lots on my fingers.
When you get down to a certain point - a buyer has to be extremely NOT picky and willing to take anything they have on the lot even if they don't like the color or the interior or the features. The last ones are always the hardest to sell because you have run out of choices - take one of these 3 or forget it.

Used just don't seem to exist here - I suspect most JT buyers in our state are first-time buyers without another JT to trade.

you could be going "in heat" lol

 

[Hootbro]

The whole "we want your used vehicle" business is 99% a load of crap that is only in their self interest. They just want you to make the mental financial gymnastics to hopefully get you into another deal.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

At least around here with the shortage of used, many dealers will absolutely buy your vehicle outright.
The guy (the ones not pestering me 3 and 4 times daily) said they have no used Gladiators, their 23s sold out fast (except a 23 Sport Apex) and they were scrambling to order in 24s just to have something on the lot.
Can't make money if you have nothing to sell and all they have are a handful of 24s (6 on hand, I believe)

this is the only 23 they have -

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My dealer has 6 23s and no used. They also have 7 24s already giving some discounts on.

That reminds me of a question I've had for a couple of years............
Is the so-called "invoice" price what's on the order guide?
When some dealer says - "6% below invoice" - what price is that?

Yeah, I've really never paid much attention

There's prices for the vehicle itself, then there's prices along with each package or option.

Is FWP the same as "invoice" ?

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