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oil and filter change at 15000 miles. Amsoil change kit.
Not the first change I’m assuming? I’m genuinely not trying to argue, but am interested. Why do people use amsoil? It seems to void every drivetrain warranty on the planet. Even if it’s good, why risk it? Genuinely curious.
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Not the first change I’m assuming? I’m genuinely not trying to argue, but am interested. Why do people use amsoil? It seems to void every drivetrain warranty on the planet. Even if it’s good, why risk it? Genuinely curious.
No way in hell I'll go THAT far out. I don't care what the company says. It's not worth the risk (and frankly, why would anyone want to get into a tangle on warranty and such)
It's ok oil but not THAT damned good unless you ask Amsoil.
The company won't even spend the money to get the logo on their containers.
IF they will write on paper and have it signed by company officers that if my engine blows, they will pay 100% for a replacement, all parts and labor - fine. But all I see is marketing.

I'd love to see a good oil analysis on that oil at 15,000 miles. But so far, no one has shown one that I'm aware of. If so - please link to it.

I think a lot of it is in word of mouth, marketing, the name just evokes "wow, you use really cool oil", that sort of thing.
 

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Not the first change I’m assuming? I’m genuinely not trying to argue, but am interested. Why do people use amsoil? It seems to void every drivetrain warranty on the planet. Even if it’s good, why risk it? Genuinely curious.
Its not the first, its the 4th. I did the first one at 1000 miles and the dealer did the last 2 at 5k and 10k.

I use amsoil in my Harleys and have for 15 years. Have never had an issue with them or anything else I have run that oil in. Didnt know that amsoil was called out as a warranty voider for Jeep and if it is, I'd really like to see that. Its oil... so is mopar (and they're both synthetic)... why would it void anything?

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Its not the first, its the 4th. I did the first one at 1000 miles and the dealer did the last 2 at 5k and 10k.

I use amsoil in my Harleys and have for 15 years. Have never had an issue with them or anything else I have run that oil in. Didnt know that amsoil was called out as a warranty voider for Jeep and if it is, I'd really like to see that. Its oil... so is mopar (and they're both synthetic)... why would it void anything?
I assumed it wasn’t your first change. FWIW, most people that I’ve come across that use amsoil, care about their stuff. But I agree with Bill that it’s not worth the warranty risk. I used penzoil Chrysler approved 0x20 until after the 60k Powertrain warranty. I’ll have the argument about me doing it myself. But it’s not worth it to me to argue my oil choice. I started using royal purple 0x20 three changes ago. But it’s no longer under any warranty. And I like that oil. I don’t sgree that oil is oil. They are used for the same purpose, but are created differently. Even if only a little different, I’m not risking my engine to prove that a company has good oil. Just me though. Thanks for answering.
 

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No way in hell I'll go THAT far out. I don't care what the company says. It's not worth the risk (and frankly, why would anyone want to get into a tangle on warranty and such)
It's ok oil but not THAT damned good unless you ask Amsoil.
The company won't even spend the money to get the logo on their containers.
IF they will write on paper and have it signed by company officers that if my engine blows, they will pay 100% for a replacement, all parts and labor - fine. But all I see is marketing.

I'd love to see a good oil analysis on that oil at 15,000 miles. But so far, no one has shown one that I'm aware of. If so - please link to it.

I think a lot of it is in word of mouth, marketing, the name just evokes "wow, you use really cool oil", that sort of thing.
The company logo was on every quart I used today...
 

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I use amsoil in my Harleys and have for 15 years. Have never had an issue with them or anything else I have run that oil in.
It's decent enough oil - just not worth going up the miles they claim it can.
If you are going for 5K - you are probably doing what the majority do.
With that there should be no problem.
 

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It's decent enough oil - just not worth going up the miles they claim it can.
If you are going for 5K - you are probably doing what the majority do.
With that there should be no problem.
I agree. It shouldn’t be a problem. But if your cam lifters fail for a completely unrelated reason, one might be out of luck if they used oil that wasn’t “on the list”.
 

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The company logo was on every quart I used today...
Company logo is, just not the API and other logos. Yeah, they love to advertise their stuff, they just don't pay to have their oils tested and certified.
 

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I assumed it wasn’t your first change. FWIW, most people that I’ve come across that use amsoil, care about their stuff. But I agree with Bill that it’s not worth the warranty risk. I used penzoil Chrysler approved 0x20 until after the 60k Powertrain warranty. I’ll have the argument about me doing it myself. But it’s not worth it to me to argue my oil choice. I started using royal purple 0x20 three changes ago. But it’s no longer under any warranty. And I like that oil. I don’t sgree that oil is oil. They are used for the same purpose, but are created differently. Even if only a little different, I’m not risking my engine to prove that a company has good oil. Just me though. Thanks for answering.
Clearly, there are laws to protect consumers against companies trying to make you use THEIR products. And if something were to happen to my motor, how is Jeep going to prove I use Amsoil and Amsoil is the reason for the failure? Do they have test tubes in the shop equivalent to testing pool water? Agree that not all oil is the same but there is no proof that Amsoil use is a reason for warranty voiding for Jeep and if used automatically voids anything.
 

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I agree. It shouldn’t be a problem. But if your cam lifters fail for a completely unrelated reason, one might be out of luck if they used oil that wasn’t “on the list”.
I've just never seen the "why" thing to buying some of the oils a few others run.
I guess having had great luck for decades in many vehicles running what I run I haven't found a compelling reason to move away from what's on my shelves.
 

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Clearly, there are laws to protect consumers against companies trying to make you use THEIR products. And if something were to happen to my motor, how is Jeep going to prove I use Amsoil and Amsoil is the reason for the failure? Do they have test tubes in the shop equivalent to testing pool water? Agree that not all oil is the same but there is no proof that Amsoil use is reason for warranty voiding and if used automatically voids anything.
They don’t make you use mopar oil. Just oil that is certified and tested for their motors. And they don’t force you to even do that. I just don’t know why people dig their heels in for amsoil. They’re not going to replace your engine. They’ll walk, quickly.
 

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Clearly, there are laws to protect consumers against companies trying to make you use THEIR products. And if something were to happen to my motor, how is Jeep going to prove I use Amsoil and Amsoil is the reason for the failure? Do they have test tubes in the shop equivalent to testing pool water? Agree that not all oil is the same but there is no proof that Amsoil use is a reason for warranty voiding for Jeep and if used automatically voids anything.
That's true - but I tend to go with the "why would i use it when the oil recommended by manufacturers, proven over many years, and readily available at almost any store works perfectly".

So I look at it as a "why"?
 

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They don’t make you use mopar oil. Just oil that is certified and tested for their motors. And they don’t force you to even do that. I just don’t know why people dig their heels in for amsoil. They’re not going to replace your engine. They’ll walk, quickly.
I'm fairly sure this scenario will never play itself out as Amsoil is as good as whatever Mopar wants U to use. And if it wasn't, all the people "digging their heels in about it" would probably be mush less, no?
 

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They don’t make you use mopar oil. Just oil that is certified and tested for their motors. And they don’t force you to even do that. I just don’t know why people dig their heels in for amsoil. They’re not going to replace your engine. They’ll walk, quickly.
Pennzoil is also in the book.
I don't see the appeal of some of the other stuff. That's all. Why should I use something else when I'm already running proven, tested, recommended, and highly rated in wear tests oils?
Sometimes I think a name is the draw and if you don't.............
 

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Can't speak for everyone using Amsoil, but for me, I have used it for years with great success in higher revving, more performant engines than the one in my Gladiator. I am also an Amsoil subscriber so I get a discount for it and it gets delivered to my door. So it's convenient. So for me, years of good service with zero problems is my main reason, convenience is the other.

That's true - but I tend to go with the "why would i use it when the oil recommended by manufacturers, proven over many years, and readily available at almost any store works perfectly".

So I look at it as a "why"?
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