What did you do TO your Gladiator today? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS, NO GUN TALK]

[RHRT]

I'm looking for an aftermarket (apparently MOPAR doesn't have these) oil pan drain plug that is magnetic. Will that PPE Pan plug (if sold separately) fit a stock JT oil pan, or is there anyone else on the forum who can/will recommend a magnetic drain plug? Since the dealer is about to open up my engine (cam kit replacement), I'd like a magnetic plug to assist in identifying any metal that may show up after the dealer closes up the engine.

I don’t know if that PPE tranny drain plug would work on a 3.6 oil pan. I installed a
Stahlbus oil drain valve plug M14x1.5x12mm for my engine oil changes. I have seen magnetic drain plugs and believe you should be able to find one online. I had thought about a magnetic oil drain plug but opted for the Stahlbus oil drain system. Works perfectly without spilling or splashing a drop of oil and do it while the engine is hot.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I only run oils with the certifications right on the container. A company can say anything they want, but if that isn't there....... I guess I'm like my mother was - "show me the proof".

API SP and ILSAC GF-7 that sort of thing. If it's not there, then I have no evidence, and can't show anyone I was using an oil that meets the book.

A few people like myself wonder- you have to wonder how they would even know if their oil performs better than others if they aren't subjecting them to a comprehensive series of standard engine tests in a lab. They can rely on available research and field testing experience, but these have some limitations.

How do they KNOW it actually meets specs if they don't try?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I don’t know if that PPE tranny drain plug would work on a 3.6 oil pan. I installed a
Stahlbus oil drain valve plug M14x1.5x12mm for my engine oil changes. I have seen magnetic drain plugs and believe you should be able to find one online. I had thought about a magnetic oil drain plug but opted for the Stahlbus oil drain system. Works perfectly without spilling or splashing a drop of oil and do it while the engine is hot.

I have a collection of antique magnet chargers - I got them for charging the magnets for engine magnetos. I suspect I could make almost any ferrous metal into a magnet - including a drain plug.
I had a chance to buy one that was so strong that you didn't dare wear anything metallic on your body and couldn't have tools laying loose close to it, but it would have required yet another 220 power source in my shop so I passed.
I should take a couple of old drain plugs I and see how it might turn out.........

 

[RHRT]

I wonder if there are magnets in the pan itself, like there are in the transmission pan.

There are 2 magnets in the OEM tranny pan. Both magnets had super fine metal particles was for me is normal. No other metal pieces were found. Used the original pan gasket too. It was in very good condition to reuse.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I'm fairly sure this scenario will never play itself out as Amsoil is as good as whatever Mopar wants U to use. And if it wasn't, all the people "digging their heels in about it" would probably be mush less, no?

Maybe it is, but by the same argument, what do you have against the half dozen brands certified for use by Chrysler, FCA, Stellantis, Dodge, Ram, etc. Do they not do the job fine? You don’t need a black jug with mopar written on it.

And I think the number of people using amsoil in modern vehicles is pretty low. I’d guess far less than 1% of owners in the us.

 

[bill61]

I understand it is expensive for a manufacturer to get their product certified, but I would think Amsoil’s sales would skyrocket (compared to present sales levels) if they were to get those certifications. They already have a very good reputation. People that use their products seem to be very loyal (kinda like us Jeep owners Ha Ha). Doesn’t their reputation come from the Drag racing world??

 

[Hootbro]

I understand it is expensive for a manufacturer to get their product certified, but I would think Amsoil’s sales would skyrocket (compared to present sales levels) if they were to get those certifications. They already have a very good reputation. People that use their products seem to be very loyal (kinda like us Jeep owners Ha Ha). Doesn’t their reputation come from the Drag racing world??

Amsoil has their "OE" line of oils for those that want the API donut on bottle for the warm fuzzy.

That being said, Amsoil has stated multiple times in the past that staying to requirements that will either maintain a API and/or a manufacturer specific spec, actually inhibits their ability to offer longer drain or application specific oils because those standards mandate limits for certain additives that inhibit their ability to offer those oils. That is why Amsoil and other specialty boutique oil makers have pretty solid warranties covering their fluid should their fluid actually cause damage if they recommend it for an application.

 

[BaneKotaKeena]

Maybe it is, but by the same argument, what do you have against the half dozen brands certified for use by Chrysler, FCA, Stellantis, Dodge, Ram, etc. Do they not do the job fine? You don’t need a black jug with mopar written on it.

And I think the number of people using amsoil in modern vehicles is pretty low. I’d guess far less than 1% of owners in the us.

I dont have anything against anything. I use Amsoil for the reasons I stated earlier. And to date, there's no reason not to.

 

[BaneKotaKeena]

Amsoil has their "OE" line of oils for those that want the API donut on bottle for the warm fuzzy.

That being said, Amsoil has stated multiple times in the past that staying to requirements that will either maintain a API and/or a manufacturer specific spec, actually inhibits their ability to offer longer drain or application specific oils because those standards mandate limits for certain additives that inhibit their ability to offer those oils. That is why Amsoil and other specialty boutique oil makers have pretty solid warranties covering their fluid should their fluid actually cause damage if they recommend it for an application.

This is what I used, the OE Line for my vehicle. Next time I'll just keep the oil change to myself.

 

[Jaydebe]

Finally got out West with it! Did a few scenic roads and trails, only "hard" trail which apparently is easy was Fins & Things.

I can't believe how capable the truck is and at least on Fin & Things, break-over was never an issue.
Departure would have been on 2 or 3 obstacles in which we chose the easier route instead of just sticking the bumper and hitch in the dirt.

I think that the steepest incline was towards the end, maybe 36*?! or so.
You look at it and think, no way, then just walk up it, even on A/Ts at 20psi.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I dont have anything against anything. I use Amsoil for the reasons I stated earlier. And to date, there's no reason not to.

Sorry I asked. I think we kind of did give a reason, but oh well. I was just curious. Curiosity killed something at some point. But I haven’t had enough coffee to remember what it was.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Finally got out West with it! Did a few scenic roads and trails, only "hard" trail which apparently is easy was Fins & Things.

I can't believe how capable the truck is and at least on Fin & Things, break-over was never an issue.
Departure would have been on 2 or 3 obstacles in which we chose the easier route instead of just sticking the bumper and hitch in the dirt.

I think that the steepest incline was towards the end, maybe 36*?! or so.
You look at it and think, no way, then just walk up it, even on A/Ts at 20psi.

Uh oh. You’re hooked now! The same exact thing happened to me. There’s no way that works. Then it walked right up. I was also at 20 back in the day before I figure out how much difference it makes to go to 15psi. Congrats on your first Moab slick rock. Welcome to the addiction.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

We wer elooking at Fins and Things for our trip this October. Not concerned about my gladi, but my buddy has a WK2 Grand Cherokee, 2in lift on 32s. I've heard he should be fine if it's dry?

 

[WILDHOBO]

We wer elooking at Fins and Things for our trip this October. Not concerned about my gladi, but my buddy has a WK2 Grand Cherokee, 2in lift on 32s. I've heard he should be fine if it's dry?

I think he should be fine. Just watch off camber things more carefully with the IFS in front. Am I remembering that correctly. Solid in rear, ifs in front? If not, ignore my a$$.

 

[ShrimpHappens]

I think he should be fine. Just watch off camber things more carefully with the IFS in front. Am I remembering that correctly. Solid in rear, ifs in front? If not, ignore my a$$.

Believe the WK2 is independent all around

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