Sponsored

What is this part?

MikeNH

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jan 20, 2025
Threads
8
Messages
96
Reaction score
114
Location
New Hampshire
Vehicle(s)
2024 Gladiator Mojave
I see the point but by the same token, once anybody lifts their vehicles and add tire sizes beyond the factory ones, that crash rating goes out the window.

If it was that perilous, I would imagine the NHTSA would mandate a recall for prior years to have it.

Not how it works. It isn’t a defect, just Jeep trying to improve the scores because people do take into consideration crash performance when buying. Ford added these years ago on the F150 but only to the volume selling crew cab, extended cabs and regular ones didn’t get it till they got called out and then it showed up the next model year on all configurations.
Sponsored

 

LouisvEarlleJT

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2023
Threads
33
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
1,847
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2023 JT Willys Earl
If it were that critical….there should be a warning label on it…DO NOT REMOVE!😂

There’s a gazillion things that are ‘engineered’ for safety on any given vehicle.. but wait… as soon as you put bigger tires on it, all the engineering goes out the window.

It’s your choice to remove it. It’s your choice to buy a used one without it.
And…. it’s your choice to ride a motorcycle without helmet. 😄
I’m just saying that for those who remove them they should remember to disclose that upon sale. The average buyer isn’t going to know to look for that and since it’s a permanent removal you’re taking on that responsibility for what happens after you remove it.
 

HorsesRear

Well-Known Member
First Name
Vern
Joined
Feb 28, 2024
Threads
4
Messages
456
Reaction score
601
Location
Clever Missouri
Vehicle(s)
2023 Jeep Gladiator Willys
Occupation
Retired
Wonder why it is only on the passenger side and not on the drivers side.
 

Hootbro

Well-Known Member
First Name
Don
Joined
Apr 13, 2019
Threads
57
Messages
10,172
Reaction score
19,936
Location
Delaware
Vehicle(s)
2025 Gladiator Sport
Wonder why it is only on the passenger side and not on the drivers side.
I think the crush zone is padded different on the drivers side with the axle differential gear offset, steering box, steering column and firewall reinforcements contributing.
 

Sponsored

Gvsukids

Well-Known Member
First Name
Justin
Joined
Mar 7, 2020
Threads
26
Messages
7,259
Reaction score
6,898
Location
Grand Rapids
Website
www.youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
2020 Gladiator Sport S Max Tow
Occupation
Delivery Driver
I’m just saying that for those who remove them they should remember to disclose that upon sale. The average buyer isn’t going to know to look for that and since it’s a permanent removal you’re taking on that responsibility for what happens after you remove it.
And you better disclose to your buyer that you've taken the Jeep off-road, or didn't follow the recommended oil change schedule.
 

LouisvEarlleJT

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2023
Threads
33
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
1,847
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2023 JT Willys Earl
And you better disclose to your buyer that you've taken the Jeep off-road, or didn't follow the recommended oil change schedule.
Absolutely, part of being a trustworthy seller/person.

You may have meant your post in sarcasm but if we all gave a collective damn about the next person the world would be a better place.
 

Janster

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jandy
Joined
Mar 27, 2024
Threads
40
Messages
1,862
Reaction score
2,920
Location
Lancaster, PA
Vehicle(s)
2024 Gladiator Mojave X
Occupation
Biller
I’m just saying that for those who remove them they should remember to disclose that upon sale. The average buyer isn’t going to know to look for that and since it’s a permanent removal you’re taking on that responsibility for what happens after you remove it.
The average buyer should already be aware.... When they buy something USED... It's USED and not from the factory. Everything on that vehicle is open for upgrading, modifying, removing, tampering, whatever..... that's just the way it is.

I'd say 85% (or more) don't even know what that thing is....(or other things). So, how can you disclose about something you have no clue yourself?? I didn't know what it was...until now.

Again...there's a gazillion other things on your truck that's been engineered to do certain things ... Consumers don't have a clue what most of them do or why. Consumers seem to think we know everything, but we really don't...... OUT of sight, Out of mind.
 

LouisvEarlleJT

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2023
Threads
33
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
1,847
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2023 JT Willys Earl
The average buyer should already be aware.... When they buy something USED... It's USED and not from the factory. Everything on that vehicle is open for upgrading, modifying, removing, tampering, whatever..... that's just the way it is.

I'd say 85% (or more) don't even know what that thing is....(or other things). So, how can you disclose about something you have no clue yourself?? I didn't know what it was...until now.

Again...there's a gazillion other things on your truck that's been engineered to do certain things ... Consumers don't have a clue what most of them do or why. Consumers seem to think we know everything, but we really don't...... OUT of sight, Out of mind.
Right, and just like the buyer should know that they may be buying something with undisclosed modifications the seller should likewise make all modifications that they are aware of known.

"Yeah so I put on a lift, it's had this set of 35's for the last 15,000 miles or so, oh and I removed the anti-rollover block from the passenger side."

If you removed it, you know about it, if you didn't remove it, then you have nothing to say on the matter. Though if you don't know what it is and still choose to remove it then you have other issues.

It's really simple. You probably shouldn't remove it, but if you do (more power to you), remember and tell the next person.

This is not a difficult concept.
 

Janster

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jandy
Joined
Mar 27, 2024
Threads
40
Messages
1,862
Reaction score
2,920
Location
Lancaster, PA
Vehicle(s)
2024 Gladiator Mojave X
Occupation
Biller
Right, and just like the buyer should know that they may be buying something with undisclosed modifications the seller should likewise make all modifications that they are aware of known.

"Yeah so I put on a lift, it's had this set of 35's for the last 15,000 miles or so, oh and I removed the anti-rollover block from the passenger side."

If you removed it, you know about it, if you didn't remove it, then you have nothing to say on the matter. Though if you don't know what it is and still choose to remove it then you have other issues.

It's really simple. You probably shouldn't remove it, but if you do (more power to you), remember and tell the next person.

This is not a difficult concept.
Common sense isn’t a difficult concept either…. But, we all know that rarely exists 🤣
 

Sponsored

Supazuk

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jay
Joined
Apr 28, 2024
Threads
2
Messages
876
Reaction score
1,422
Location
NH
Vehicle(s)
2023 JT, 94 Zuk buggy, 87 Samurai, 96 Suburban, 80 Capri, 15 R60 ALL4S, 13 DR650
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
USCG (Retired)
Might as well cut one of the seatbelts while you're at it, that way the next buyer knows for sure that a safety feature has been removed.
make sure you don't change your bumper or do any frame chops either....
 

brsnow2585

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bryan
Joined
Jan 16, 2025
Threads
0
Messages
305
Reaction score
307
Location
Illinois
Vehicle(s)
22 JT Rubicon diesel
I still can't see how this would help keep a tire from tucking under, or what difference that'd even make, if you got that sideways, you're rolling. I guess it's so they can 'say they tried' and it was due to misuse.
 

Minty JL

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jeremy
Joined
May 15, 2019
Threads
25
Messages
4,793
Reaction score
7,612
Location
Ft Meade, MD - AOR
Vehicle(s)
23 JTM - 19 JLUR - 22 Compass LTD - 04 355 ZQ8
Occupation
USA(R), DoD - MD TM lead - Field Operations

LouisvEarlleJT

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2023
Threads
33
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
1,847
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2023 JT Willys Earl
I still can't see how this would help keep a tire from tucking under, or what difference that'd even make, if you got that sideways, you're rolling. I guess it's so they can 'say they tried' and it was due to misuse.
On the passenger overlap headon collision test the axle is forced back and that plate “catches” the tire in such a way that it wedges/stops there.

When it’s not there the tire rolls under the frame forcing the truck up and over.

Other vehicles don’t have this issue because their approach angle is garbage and usually the low hanging bumper/front fascia crumples up.

On wranglers/gladiators the combination of high clearance and approach angle makes the axle more susceptible to being shoved around in an accident.

Trade offs and all that.
Sponsored

 
 







Top