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Just got back from our 10 day trip out west. Two days to get there, six in Moab, and two back.

I have some pictures on my work phone and some video I need to put together. I will put that up later.

I met Dan (@WILDHOBO ) in town and he hung out with us the first few days. Dan is an 11/10 fella. If you get a chance to wheel with him somewhere - take it.

We took my more or less stock Gladiator. It did fine. She's a weenie dog and drug everywhere, all the time. To be expected.

Quick ratings:

Moab Rustic Inn - we stayed here for the entire week. Great hotel. Some of the cheaper rates in town and within walking distance of the entire 'downtown' area. Would choose again. Good coffee in the morning, sandwiches, juice, and fruit to grab and go, and comfy beds. No complaints to speak of here.

We hit a few different dining establishments. Elsies, Zax, Sultan Mediterranean, Moab Diner, Woody's Tavern, Deweys and El Tapatio. Moab Diner continues to be my overall favorite after three visits now. Elsies is a cute AF coffee shop that had a damn good burger. Woody's is the Merriam Webster definition of a local dive bar. Raunchy and fun. Zax had the best pizza crust I've had lately on a pizza, and the Sultan was a great overall as well - a different spin on the Mediterranean food that we were used to. I believe they have an Indian influence on their menu. It was good! Deweys had a great pastrami melt and I felt the menu was reasonably priced for Moab, and the food/service was great. El Tapatio ranked lower to the bottom. I felt it was high priced for what would be 'average' Mexican food here at home - with even beer prices running a good bit higher than some other local Moab establishments. That being said - go check it out if you are in the area. Just because it wasn't our favorite doesn't mean it won't be yours - they do have quite high Google ratings.

We also hit Spanish Valley Winery. Nice little stop to try some local wines. The indoor area is extremely cramped, but they have lots of outdoor seating which would be totally fine in 97% of Utah weather. I bought some wine to take back to the fiance.

Honorable Mention: The 7-Eleven next to the Wendy's is no frills, but the lady working the counter in the mornings had an absolutely wonderful personality. Very friendly, made you happy to stop for a bag of ice and a splash of gas.

Day 1 - Fins & Things, Hells Revenge

Day started off pretty and switched to on and off rain showers. My 'stock' Gladiator handled all of the usual trail portions fine. Lots of belly dragging and the occasional careful spotting up some ledges. I did not do Hells Gate in my truck, but Dan graciously insisted I drive his up. It did great. Dan made an attempt at the Escalator but dropped a tire in the hole (it happens) and the truck ingested quite a bit of oil. Nothing serious, just required a little trail TLC while we added what spare oil we had and checked on some things.

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Day 2 - Chickens Corner

I took an easy day while Dan tended to his truck and camp (weather was rough!). Explored Catacomb Rock (worth the drive!) and drove all the way down to the 'Chicken Corner' where a couple groups of people were having lunch. Stopped for a photo op at Hurrah Pass of course.

Chicken Corner has a few sections where you could have fun with a stock truck, picking more difficult ledges, etc. Of course, the trail is entirely passable by a stock 4x4 fullsize truck if you choose to keep it easy.


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Day 3 - Seven Mile (portions), and Tusher Tunnel.

We did not run the entirely of Seven Mile, but we entered on the trail before deviating off to get to Uranium Arch quicker as we had a late start and didn't want to be late out. Visited the Monitor & Merimac, and did the slick rock portion of the trail down toward Wipeout Hill and then exited out via the long wash - which in a light rain was quite fun. Visited Tusher Tunnel as well - worth the side quest. It's a short scramble up a rock trail - then you walk through a 300' long triangular tunnel that opens up to a small canyon.

Seven Mile, while rated moderate like Chickens Corner (on Trails Offroad), is far more difficult for a stock Gladiator - so not sure what criteria they are using. The entirety of Seven Mile in a stock Gladiator will result in lot of dragging and carefully picking lines in some areas - mostly at all of the step climbs.


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Day 4 - Waterfall Peeping - La Sal Loop Road

With Dan heading back to Colorado and the worst day of rain so far - we decided to keep it easier. We drove down the highway toward Potash to see what the weather was providing. In this case, numerous waterfalls. We came back and had lunch in town - then proceeded north toward Onion Creek to simply see how the conditions looked. Not good. So we took a different route back to Moab via Castle Valley and La Sal Loop. We ended the day visiting Moab's only winery (Spanish Valley Winery).

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Water fall, truck AND Jug Handle Arch.

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Onion Creek was raging and washing out the road before we ever got to the first crossing. We did not proceed further.

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Castle Valley

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La Sal Loop. We disappeared into the clouds for a lot of the drive. Notice the snow/ice on the mountain side.

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Day 5 - The weather cleared. Finally, after four days of rain - we had blue skies. We visited Canyonlands Island in the Sky. We hit all the typical view points and then took the Shafer switchbacks down to Potash Road and back to Moab. If you have never visited a place like this, the pictures cannot convey the scale of what you are looking at. You simply have to go and see yourself.

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Day 6 - Arches. On the last day, we visited Arches NP. Beautiful park. There is alot you can see from the road but honestly to fully appreciate it, you need to be able to hike into places. My mother is not quite spry anymore and we stuck close to pavement. I'll be going back to really dig in at a later date.

After lunch we did Gemini Bridges Road to Gemini Bridges (no photos worth sharing - hard to photograph from above) and headed back to town to pack up and go home the following day.


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The line getting into Arches at lunch. We arrived at 7AM before the sun was fully up to beat some of the crowd.

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Also - traveling solo (one rig, two people) out here, especially in bad weather meant being well informed at all times. We generally had weather radar and two different map systems running via Starlink along with an HT ham radio handy.

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That’s one of the reasons I did my build. I’m glad it worked well for all involved. How should one plan a trip, so as to do as much as possible before the next trip? Is there somewhere online that can help prioritize trails?
 
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That’s one of the reasons I did my build. I’m glad it worked well for all involved. How should one plan a trip, so as to do as much as possible before the next trip? Is there somewhere online that can help prioritize trails?
I used Trails Offroad app for most of my planning. It gives you approximate time it takes for each trail. Then I used Google Maps to help calculate highway portions.

Trails Offroad had Chickens Corner / Hurrah Pass at about 6 hours total (out and back) - and we probably spent about that (slightly less) including stops and exploring Catacomb Rock. So I think there time is a reasonable starting point.

Then, what kind of schedule do you like? I don't mind running hard, but I wanted to go easier on my senior mother, so we were in the truck by 9AM and planned to be off the trails for 4-5PM to chill at the hotel for a minute before going to get dinner.

A lot of it revolved around weather and efficient direction of travel.

We had to change some plans due to weather entirely, so it's good to have some backup ideas filed away. For example - if Onion Creek is on the list, have some backup plans that are up high / away from creeks in case water is a problem. For us. Onion Creek was a raging river - and I already had Castle Valley and La Sal Loop Road on the list as a backup in that area - so we just went back down the highway a short ways and ducked off onto 'Plan B'.

Everything else we planned based on direction of travel if that makes sense.

Like for Gemini Bridges we started from Hwy 191 and worked toward Hwy 313 so that if we desired, we could finish at Deadhorse for sunset. No doubling back or excess driving. After Deadhorse, you could take Long Canyon back into Moab. This forms a loop.

Canyonlands, we drove in via Hwy 313 and exited back to Moab on dirt via Potash. Made a big circle.

For Seven Mile Rim, again I had spare things filed away in the same area. Hidden Canyon and Tusher Tunnel. It allowed us to adjust on the fly. After rain early on kept us hiding in the truck, a break in the weather later had me pluck Tusher Tunnel from the filing cabinet and drop it in at the end of the day. It filled out the remaining time perfectly.

A good rule of thumb may also be, if you have a set of amount of time you want to be out away from camp or hotel, don't budget more than 75-80% of it away. Leave a cushion or stuff to go wrong or to spend time somewhere. You can always lolly gag somewhere if you are ahead of schedule, or pick something from the backup list to add.
 
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That’s one of the reasons I did my build. I’m glad it worked well for all involved. How should one plan a trip, so as to do as much as possible before the next trip? Is there somewhere online that can help prioritize trails?
I would build my truck out further, but there is no wheeling options to speak of closer than 8-10 hours from me. At that point, it doesn't make sense right now to overbuild the truck for one or two annual trips. So for me, that means a bit of dragging and careful wheeling when I do get lucky enough to go west 😄
 

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I would build my truck out further, but there is no wheeling options to speak of closer than 8-10 hours from me. At that point, it doesn't make sense right now to overbuild the truck for one or two annual trips. So for me, that means a bit of dragging and careful wheeling when I do get lucky enough to go west 😄
Makes a ton of sense. For me, most of the places for good wheeling take more time to drive to, than wheel. Especially when you need to get back home.
 
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I'd like to point out, as it may not be obvious to people un familiar with Moab, that if you are in the area and are a competent driver, I would say don't feel worried about venturing down Chicken's Corner or Potash / Shafer solo. Download off line maps, carry some water, snacks, tools, and recovery gear, and don't be afraid to ask questions. Both roads are highly trafficked and even in the middle of the day on a weekday you will come across many other vehicles. Do not venture down either one in rainy conditions unless you have a way of watching radar without cell service (like Starlink) and understand basic weather watching on it.

We kept an eye on the radar so we knew when we were dealing with light rain, or if any heavy thunderstorms were approaching us, or the land ABOVE us.

On Potash on a Thursday I passed five Ford F150 Raptors in a group, two 4-Runners, a Tacoma, a Colorado, three Jeep Wranglers solo along with a group of six together, and a group of dirt bikes.

On Chickens Corner on a rainy day (even all the way at the end of the trial), I passed multiple groups of side by sides, dirt bikes, several Wranglers, a few 4-Runners, a Lexus, an F150, and a Tundra.

The road to Tusher Tunnel (Mill Canyon to Tusher Road) is completely fine solo as well, and if you wanted to take the portion of Seven Mile from Tusher Road to Determination Towers, that is a very easy and fun section of trail. It's in a smooth creek wash and then runs up some sandy smooth portions with a couple sections of slick rock.

I would not recommend Hells Revenge (with bypasses), Fins & Things, or Seven Mile solo. I personally found enough places in a stock truck on all three where a second set of eyes was prudent. if In a built or shorter rig, your experience would be different.

Of course, I know everyone has varying opinions on venturing out alone.

Just my completely non professional advice.
 

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Brother you missed out on Giliberto's. Fantastic breakfast burritos and the size of a small child. Great trip, I'm jealous.
 

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Just got back from our 10 day trip out west. Two days to get there, six in Moab, and two back.
Great post and photos! Looking forward to EJS 2027! Just a quick tip if you like wood fired pizza the next time you are in Moab check out Antica Forma – Authentic Neapolitan Pizza & Italian Cuisine in Vernal & Moab, UT” Its our goto for PIZZA. Fast service and great pizza. If you like BBQ Spitfire Smokehouse BBQ & Taps | Best BBQ in Moab, Utah , it ain't bad.

Cheers!
 
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Brother you missed out on Giliberto's. Fantastic breakfast burritos and the size of a small child. Great trip, I'm jealous.
I have plans to go back, so I will hit it up next time 😀
 

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Just got back from our 10 day trip out west. Two days to get there, six in Moab, and two back.

I have some pictures on my work phone and some video I need to put together. I will put that up later.

I met Dan (@WILDHOBO ) in town and he hung out with us the first few days. Dan is an 11/10 fella. If you get a chance to wheel with him somewhere - take it.

We took my more or less stock Gladiator. It did fine. She's a weenie dog and drug everywhere, all the time. To be expected.

Quick ratings:

Moab Rustic Inn - we stayed here for the entire week. Great hotel. Some of the cheaper rates in town and within walking distance of the entire 'downtown' area. Would choose again. Good coffee in the morning, sandwiches, juice, and fruit to grab and go, and comfy beds. No complaints to speak of here.

We hit a few different dining establishments. Elsies, Zax, Sultan Mediterranean, Moab Diner, Woody's Tavern, Deweys and El Tapatio. Moab Diner continues to be my overall favorite after three visits now. Elsies is a cute AF coffee shop that had a damn good burger. Woody's is the Merriam Webster definition of a local dive bar. Raunchy and fun. Zax had the best pizza crust I've had lately on a pizza, and the Sultan was a great overall as well - a different spin on the Mediterranean food that we were used to. I believe they have an Indian influence on their menu. It was good! Deweys had a great pastrami melt and I felt the menu was reasonably priced for Moab, and the food/service was great. El Tapatio ranked lower to the bottom. I felt it was high priced for what would be 'average' Mexican food here at home - with even beer prices running a good bit higher than some other local Moab establishments. That being said - go check it out if you are in the area. Just because it wasn't our favorite doesn't mean it won't be yours - they do have quite high Google ratings.

We also hit Spanish Valley Winery. Nice little stop to try some local wines. The indoor area is extremely cramped, but they have lots of outdoor seating which would be totally fine in 97% of Utah weather. I bought some wine to take back to the fiance.

Honorable Mention: The 7-Eleven next to the Wendy's is no frills, but the lady working the counter in the mornings had an absolutely wonderful personality. Very friendly, made you happy to stop for a bag of ice and a splash of gas.

Day 1 - Fins & Things, Hells Revenge

Day started off pretty and switched to on and off rain showers. My 'stock' Gladiator handled all of the usual trail portions fine. Lots of belly dragging and the occasional careful spotting up some ledges. I did not do Hells Gate in my truck, but Dan graciously insisted I drive his up. It did great. Dan made an attempt at the Escalator but dropped a tire in the hole (it happens) and the truck ingested quite a bit of oil. Nothing serious, just required a little trail TLC while we added what spare oil we had and checked on some things.

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Day 2 - Chickens Corner

I took an easy day while Dan tended to his truck and camp (weather was rough!). Explored Catacomb Rock (worth the drive!) and drove all the way down to the 'Chicken Corner' where a couple groups of people were having lunch. Stopped for a photo op at Hurrah Pass of course.

Chicken Corner has a few sections where you could have fun with a stock truck, picking more difficult ledges, etc. Of course, the trail is entirely passable by a stock 4x4 fullsize truck if you choose to keep it easy.


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Day 3 - Seven Mile (portions), and Tusher Tunnel.

We did not run the entirely of Seven Mile, but we entered on the trail before deviating off to get to Uranium Arch quicker as we had a late start and didn't want to be late out. Visited the Monitor & Merimac, and did the slick rock portion of the trail down toward Wipeout Hill and then exited out via the long wash - which in a light rain was quite fun. Visited Tusher Tunnel as well - worth the side quest. It's a short scramble up a rock trail - then you walk through a 300' long triangular tunnel that opens up to a small canyon.

Seven Mile, while rated moderate like Chickens Corner (on Trails Offroad), is far more difficult for a stock Gladiator - so not sure what criteria they are using. The entirety of Seven Mile in a stock Gladiator will result in lot of dragging and carefully picking lines in some areas - mostly at all of the step climbs.


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Day 4 - Waterfall Peeping - La Sal Loop Road

With Dan heading back to Colorado and the worst day of rain so far - we decided to keep it easier. We drove down the highway toward Potash to see what the weather was providing. In this case, numerous waterfalls. We came back and had lunch in town - then proceeded north toward Onion Creek to simply see how the conditions looked. Not good. So we took a different route back to Moab via Castle Valley and La Sal Loop. We ended the day visiting Moab's only winery (Spanish Valley Winery).

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Water fall, truck AND Jug Handle Arch.

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Onion Creek was raging and washing out the road before we ever got to the first crossing. We did not proceed further.

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Castle Valley

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La Sal Loop. We disappeared into the clouds for a lot of the drive. Notice the snow/ice on the mountain side.

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Day 5 - The weather cleared. Finally, after four days of rain - we had blue skies. We visited Canyonlands Island in the Sky. We hit all the typical view points and then took the Shafer switchbacks down to Potash Road and back to Moab. If you have never visited a place like this, the pictures cannot convey the scale of what you are looking at. You simply have to go and see yourself.

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Day 6 - Arches. On the last day, we visited Arches NP. Beautiful park. There is alot you can see from the road but honestly to fully appreciate it, you need to be able to hike into places. My mother is not quite spry anymore and we stuck close to pavement. I'll be going back to really dig in at a later date.

After lunch we did Gemini Bridges Road to Gemini Bridges (no photos worth sharing - hard to photograph from above) and headed back to town to pack up and go home the following day.


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The line getting into Arches at lunch. We arrived at 7AM before the sun was fully up to beat some of the crowd.

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It was a privilege to share the time. Thanks very much. So much fun.
 

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Brother you missed out on Giliberto's. Fantastic breakfast burritos and the size of a small child. Great trip, I'm jealous.
I haven’t eaten there either. I will next time though. Thanks!
 

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Great post and photos! Looking forward to EJS 2027! Just a quick tip if you like wood fired pizza the next time you are in Moab check out Antica Forma – Authentic Neapolitan Pizza & Italian Cuisine in Vernal & Moab, UT” Its our goto for PIZZA. Fast service and great pizza. If you like BBQ Spitfire Smokehouse BBQ & Taps | Best BBQ in Moab, Utah , it ain't bad.

Cheers!
So hard to hit all the spots. I’ve been there a bunch and haven’t eaten at any of these either. Next time!
 

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Thanks Chris, running with Dan and heading out west is a plan I have, this was a great read and I also have a mild build which gets through a lot of trails that I doubt I’ll make but always get through. This really got me going to head out!…….Jack

PS: having that skid under was a nice feeling I bet, I have a full belly skid and love the feeling that those bumps and scrapes are not a problem.
 
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The Red Rock (Extreme Terrain) bed sliders worked great, and I am happy with the Asfir skid plate as well. It was clear that having it was a good choice for this trip.

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