Mojave shocks under a diesel?

[willhonkforparts]

Anybody out there running stock Mojave shocks under a diesel rig? How's it working for you?

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[Rick_Jame55]

Not running the Mojave shocks but I am running the he FOX 3.0’s. They are awesome.

 

[willhonkforparts]

Not running the Mojave shocks but I am running the he FOX 3.0’s. They are awesome.

No doubt they are! Waaay too spendy for me though.

 

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

What are you looking for? Budget remote res shocks? A different ride? No more bottoming out?

 

[PlayfulBird]

I am fairly certain the Stock Mojave shocks will bottom out because of the engine's weight plus that the diesels bottom out even their stock shocks... (if you drive it Mojave style)

 

[Rick_Jame55]

I am fairly certain the Stock Mojave shocks will bottom out because of the engine's weight plus that the diesels bottom out even their stock shocks... (if you drive it Mojave style)

Do you still have stock springs and lift?

 

[willhonkforparts]

What are you looking for? Budget remote res shocks? A different ride? No more bottoming out?

I'm looking for a more controlled ride. I find the stock Rubicon shocks valved too softly. I find them floaty, but also, yes, I am looking for more compression valving on the front to help alleviate the bottoming out but also to just smooth out the shitty roads I drive here in New Brunswick, Canada. I can buy Fox 2.0 or Bilsteins for around $1000-$1200, but as you noted, I see the stock Mojave shocks as a budget remote res shock for not much more than aftermarket monotubes. The potential is there, I'm just wondering if the Mojave shocks are valved stiff enough on compression for the extra weight of the diesel. It really sucks that Jeep/Fox won't let anyone know what the valving is on these shocks. It would answer my question so easily.

 

[willhonkforparts]

I am fairly certain the Stock Mojave shocks will bottom out because of the engine's weight plus that the diesels bottom out even their stock shocks... (if you drive it Mojave style)

"Fairly certain" doesn't really answer the question though. Actual shock dyno numbers would answer it, but unfortunately I can't find that info anywhere. I'm hoping to maybe find someone who has done it already who can help answer it.

 

[Rick_Jame55]

I'm looking for a more controlled ride. I find the stock Rubicon shocks valved too softly. I find them floaty, but also, yes, I am looking for more compression valving on the front to help alleviate the bottoming out but also to just smooth out the shitty roads I drive here in New Brunswick, Canada. I can buy Fox 2.0 or Bilsteins for around $1000-$1200, but as you noted, I see the stock Mojave shocks as a budget remote res shock for not much more than aftermarket monotubes. The potential is there, I'm just wondering if the Mojave shocks are valved stiff enough on compression for the extra weight of the diesel. It really sucks that Jeep/Fox won't let anyone know what the valving is on these shocks. It would answer my question so easily.

I was at the Overland Expo Mountain last month and meet with the FOX reps. We were talking about their struts with remote reservoirs. The Rep said that one thing to be careful of is “RIDE HEIGHT” on the strut. Due to the floating pistons on the inside. Basically the piston has to stay within a certain range within the internal valving during normal driving to last. Other wise you can damage/ wear out the strut well ahead of the normal life. And with the added weight of the Diesel engine you will most likely be below that range. You might want to check the ride height range of the struts. One fix/ work around is to add spacers to the top of the springs. Or add a lift.

 

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

"Fairly certain" doesn't really answer the question though. Actual shock dyno numbers would answer it, but unfortunately I can't find that info anywhere. I'm hoping to maybe find someone who has done it already who can help answer it.

Good luck with that. Before I got my lift kit I wanted info on spring rates damping, etc.
"Oh ours is great, you'll love it" is pretty much the only answer I got.

I wanted something dynamic for washboard roads so went with gas springs and adjustable falcon shocks. Not satisfied so far. Better than adjusting the shocks is disconnecting the sway bar for the smoothest ride.

 

[PlayfulBird]

Fine then, the shocks will bottom out ! if if if and if...

Actual shock dyno numbers would answer it,

... good luck finding that on a forum. How about instead of asking a forum for those kinds of certainties, ask the manufacturer.

In a forum you will always find someone that has done it and someone that is fine with the outcome, but... not imperically proven fact to some stuff that is clearly objective. Look at the regearing threads.... same story. Is there a mathematically correct set of data, yes, do we care, no!

Also again, if there is a chance of them bottoming out it is a clear answer to your quesstion by default imho

Next time maybe ask the question differently...

 

[willhonkforparts]

Fine then, the shocks will bottom out ! if if if and if...




... good luck finding that on a forum. How about instead of asking a forum for those kinds of certainties, ask the manufacturer.

In a forum you will always find someone that has done it and someone that is fine with the outcome, but... not imperically proven fact to some stuff that is clearly objective. Look at the regearing threads.... same story. Is there a mathematically correct set of data, yes, do we care, no!

Also again, if there is a chance of them bottoming out it is a clear answer to your quesstion by default imho

Next time maybe ask the question differently...

Thanks for the help. Perhaps you should re-read the initial question I did ask: "Anybody out there running stock Mojave shocks under a diesel rig? How's it working for you?" As per your request, let me rephrase..

"Dost thou hast desert dampening instruments sous thyst granite machiner? How dost said instruments function forst thee?"

Better?

Also, there is a chance of every shock ever made of bottoming out. But seriously, thanks for your help.

I'll reiterate: anyone running mojave shocks under a diesel? How are the results?

 

[Minty JL]

Shocks are not the issue, it's the spring rate for the coil springs that insufficient.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Shocks are not the issue, it's the spring rate for the coil springs that insufficient.

Not true.....even with the heavier springs there is still bottoming.

The diesel needs much more low/mid speed damping regardless of spring rate. I incrementally went from stock to Evos to Clayton gas to Clsyton diesel springs all on Fox 2.5 shocks and the bottoming didn't stop until I added much heavier valving to the effected shaft speed zone.

 

[PlayfulBird]

Thanks for the help. Perhaps you should re-read the initial question I did ask: "Anybody out there running stock Mojave shocks under a diesel rig? How's it working for you?" As per your request, let me rephrase..

"Dost thou hast desert dampening instruments sous thyst granite machiner? How dost said instruments function forst thee?"

Better?

Also, there is a chance of every shock ever made of bottoming out. But seriously, thanks for your help.

I'll reiterate: anyone running mojave shocks under a diesel? How are the results?

All good dude??

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