HEADS UP... NO ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL

[briscoelab]

So far we have seen exactly zero evidence that anyone who ordered the advanced safety group has had a vehicle delivered that lacks the adaptive cruise. The only thing reported is your dealer told you they weren't including it. Literally no one else. And yours has the ACC installed.

This is not an attack against you... just stating the obvious based on observations here. You were sharing what your dealer had said and I think everyone here is happy to have had that feedback as a potential concern.

1. We know ACC wasn't explicitly listed under the advanced Safety group option on the dealer order screen. A lot of people interpreted this to mean it would no be included. But I think this was just CYA incase it didn't show up with it.

2. We know that eventually Jeep suspended the ability to order the safety groups.

I'm glad that yours was delivered with it. But I think we can put this to rest at this point that is was never an actual issue. If you were able to order it, you're good.

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[Teqsand]

The only thing reported is your dealer told you they weren't including it. Literally no one else. And yours has the ACC installed.
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3 different dealers, in 3 parts of the country said the same thing, all noticed it was conspicuously missing... wonder what the percentage of JT buyers are represented here to determine the data pool....

And it's on my build list, but I have not seen the actual JT yet....

 

[briscoelab]

I don’t think anyone is disputing it was missing from the Advanced safety group listing in the ordering system. Just that it being absent from the screen meant it wouldn’t be included.

Ordered in Oct (3rd).

Build sheet populated today listing ACC.

 

[briscoelab]

Oct 3, as mentioned in first line of my post. D1 on the 5th.

 

[Teqsand]

Oct 3, as mentioned in first line of my post. D1 on the 5th.

Seems to be the Aug orders with the Issue as I'm seeing it... many builds seem delayed per another thread

 

[bleda2002]

Being able to order advanced safety with out ACC would make no sense, the camera hardware controls both things. That's why this was always a bunk rumor.

Edit: By both things I mean foward collision warning, and Adaptive Cruise Control, you cant have FCW with out out the ACC hardware.

 

[briscoelab]

Being able to order advanced safety with out ACC would make no sense, the camera hardware controls both things. That's why this was always a bunk rumor.

Yep, total nonsense of a rumor.

Now, I don't doubt that some dealers were saying if you ordered the adv safety group that it may not come with the ACC because it wasn't explicitly written out on the order screen within their system. I heard that line from 1 potential dealer.

My ordering dealer called their rep to confirm it was still included at the time of ordering and stated it just wasn't populated on the ordering screen under that option.

This turned out to be making something out of nothing.

There could have been some confusion coming in baed on some reps knowing there was a supply crunch on the ACC components and that ordering the advanced safety group would be curtailed in the coming weeks (which did happen).

But, there hasn't been a single case of someone ordering the advanced safety group and: 1. Getting a vehicle delivered with out it. 2. Getting a vehicle with everything but the ACC feature. Which, as you state wouldn't make any sense in the 1st place.

Orders in Aug, delivered with it installed. Sept orders, delivered with it installed. Oct orders, deliveries and build sheets/stickers confirming it's on them. Then we lost the ability to order the group.

It sounds like MANY dealers were spreading incorrect information (that Kent guy included)... likely in a CYA attempt incase trucks showed up lacking ordered features.

Moreover, JLs have been shipping and arriving with the safety groups as well. This was a non-issue. Let's let it go on that point.

Still worth posting when orders open back up for that option again.

 

[Teqsand]

Being able to order advanced safety with out ACC would make no sense, the camera hardware controls both things. That's why this was always a bunk rumor.

Edit: By both things I mean foward collision warning, and Adaptive Cruise Control, you cant have FCW with out out the ACC hardware.

And what if the issue were as simple as no available switch module for the steering wheel portion of the system? FCW works independently of that does it not?

 

[bleda2002]

And what if the issue were as simple as no available switch module for the steering wheel portion of the system? FCW works independently of that does it not?

Then you get rid of the package. If a switch is your shortfall though you have bigger issues from a supply chain stand point. You wouldnt use up a different windshield, roll bar headliner, ACC hardware, wiring harness, and different software if you arent going to provide the guts of the package. If not thye would need to charge you 925 or the 945 the package costs to make money on it.

 

[Teqsand]

Then you get rid of the package. If a switch is your shortfall though you have bigger issues from a supply chain stand point. You wouldnt use up a different windshield, roll bar headliner, ACC hardware, wiring harness, and different software if you arent going to provide the guts of the package. If not thye would need to charge you 925 or the 945 the package costs to make money on it.

This is why they would still do it, the AEB works without the ACC component

"20 major automakers representing more than 99 percent of the U.S. auto market have agreed to make automatic emergency braking (AEB) a standard feature on all of their new vehicles no later than Sept 1, 2022. Under terms of the pact, AEB will be installed on virtually all light-duty cars and trucks with a gross vehicle weight (GVW) of 8,500 lb. or less"

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/automatic-braking-nearly-standard-by-2022/

 

[sharpsicle]

This is why they would still do it, the AEB works without the ACC component

"20 major automakers representing more than 99 percent of the U.S. auto market have agreed to make automatic emergency braking (AEB) a standard feature on all of their new vehicles no later than Sept 1, 2022. Under terms of the pact, AEB will be installed on virtually all light-duty cars and trucks with a gross vehicle weight (GVW) of 8,500 lb. or less"

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/automatic-braking-nearly-standard-by-2022/

And what if the issue were as simple as no available switch module for the steering wheel portion of the system? FCW works independently of that does it not?

No offense, but this really makes it look like you're grasping at straws over a non-issue. You can bring up whataboutisms all day long on any topic, but that doesn't bring any more or less credence to the facts presented. As @bleda2002 mentioned, the same hardware is used for both. Unless you can point to something describing this switch issue you mentioned, you're just spinning tales of potential woe.

Why keep going? You brought up the odd ordering screen issue. Thank you for that. But you're still getting ACC. Others who ordered the package clearly are as well. It looks to me like you're just trying to get people worked up now.

 

[briscoelab]

Exactly! I don’t understand what dog the OP has in this fight. The info was clearly wrong and a product of the error in the ordering screen. Nothing more. Be happy we are all getting ACC if we were able to order it. Let it go and move on.

No one will think you’re foolish for posting the info passed on by your dealer (Even if it’s turned out the dealer, and others, were wrong). They will think you’re foolish for flying in the face of all available data just so you can say “well, you don’t know if someone didn’t get the ACC they ordered”.

Turn the thread into something useful and post up when the option returns for ordering.

 

[Teqsand]

Just passing on what I was told, hoping ppl do thier due diligence, talk to thier dealers, 4 months is a long wait to find out something was wrong.... did the math on it, seems legit ... bash me all ya want, floor mats held up some builds last year, a switch is not unrealistic... Brisco you're in the other thread about builds, seems Aug orders were delayed, again the math here seems to work... we do have a limited data pool to work, that's a reality... but cool I'm out, this isn't the group for me it seems, peace..

 

[UM_Ftown]

Tried to order a JT Sport S a couple weeks ago with both Safety Groups and they weren't even available on the order screen. Sales person tried all models of the JT and JL and it's just not available right now.

Also, if you go to Jeep's website you can see that if you search for vehicles with the safety groups only like 2% of inventory (at least by me) have it installed.

 

[briscoelab]

Confirming my Oct 3 order was delivered to the dealer today and it did have both safety groups, as ordered. But, as others have mentioned here, the option to order those has been suspended until parts availability improves.

Parts are being prioritized for people that have open orders were they were able to order the safety groups.

This is a pretty crappy situation for everyone, because honestly both of these safety groups should be standard at this point. Most competitors are including this type of stuff as standard, even on lower trims.

I’m glad I was able to get the groups and hope things improve for those of you wanting to option these.

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