6MT Manual Transmission Failure - Warranty Experience Sucks

[NachoRuby]

The recall was for the clutch pressure plates overheating, causing fires. It was for 2018 JLs-early 2021 JLs and JTs. The remedy was to reroute the hydraulic lines plates and to limit the torque once excess slip was detected.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/JEEP/WRANGLER/SUV/4WD%2520Later%2520Release#recalls400

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[Cripton805]

So the case just blow apart for NO reason at all? Nothing caused it? The case simply cracks most of the way around and opens up?
I'd lay money on some of those being people.......... who either lie or won't admit they screwed up.
Any copies of the actual recalls - with specifics?

Here you go.
It's a known widespread issue on JLs. There are literally thousands of posts on the JL forum regarding these issues among many different threads as well.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...uals-overheating-clutch-pressure-plate.47887/

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...er-recall-burns-2018-jlu-to-the-ground.98834/

 

[Cripton805]

The recall was for the clutch overheating, causing fires. It was for 2018 JLs-early 2021 JLs and JTs. But, I don't think the transmission were exploding. The clutches we're overheating and the hydraulic lines were catching on fire. The remedy was to limit torque when excess slip (causing heat) occured, and to reroute and insulate the hydraulic lines. I don't think those were exploding, they were overheating and catching on fire.

Some were exploding. I followed these issues among the many posts and threads.

Manual trans owners have been switching to Centerforce to fix these issues.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The recall was for the clutch overheating, causing fires. It was for 2018 JLs-early 2021 JLs and JTs. But, I don't think the transmission were exploding. The clutches we're overheating and the hydraulic lines were catching on fire. The remedy was to limit torque when excess slip (causing heat) occured, and to reroute and insulate the hydraulic lines. I don't think those were exploding, they were overheating and catching on fire.

And there's one of the problems with the internet - a lot of info gets mixed, twisted, turned, whatever.
There may be recalls - but just saying "there's a bunch of recalls" or "there are multiple recalls" - for exploding transmissions?
Numbers, documents, examples, please.

OK, I just dug through Jeep Wrangler - 3 years worth, not a single transmission related recall.
Clutch overheating was the closest and that's totally unrelated to transmission failure.

Here you go.
It's a known widespread issue on JLs. There are literally thousands of posts on the JL forum regarding these issues among many different threads as well.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...uals-overheating-clutch-pressure-plate.47887/

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...er-recall-burns-2018-jlu-to-the-ground.98834/

Seriously? That's it? TOTALLY unrelated! Those aren't even transmission related failures! Those are all clutch over-heating. That's a very different discussion. This is about transmissions busting, not clutches getting hot or fires.
So - what you just posted doesn't count at all.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Some were exploding. I followed these issues among the many posts and threads.

Manual trans owners have been switching to Centerforce to fix these issues.

That is CLUTCH issues - NOT transmission. Go back and read, and look at the pictures.
YOU are talking clutches, we are talking transmission.
One does not cause the other, nor are they even related. You may as well have posted about the shift knob coming loose.

WE are talking busted transmission
YOU are talking about burning clutches
Apples and oranges

 

[NachoRuby]

And there's one of the problems with the internet - a lot of info gets mixed, twisted, turned, whatever.
There may be recalls - but just saying "there's a bunch of recalls" or "there are multiple recalls" - for exploding transmissions?
Numbers, documents, examples, please.

OK, I just dug through Jeep Wrangler - 3 years worth, not a single transmission related recall.
Clutch overheating was the closest and that's totally unrelated to transmission failure.



Seriously? That's it? TOTALLY unrelated! Those aren't even transmission related failures! Those are all clutch over-heating. That's a very different discussion. This is about transmissions busting, not clutches getting hot or fires.
So - what you just posted doesn't count at all.

Here is the recall. He could be right, if this was a pre-recall build. This is the first one I saw where the whole thing just blew up though. I thought most of these issues were long over, if indeed this is what happened.

#21V028000
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/JEEP/WRANGLER/SUV/4WD%2520Later%2520Release#recalls400

 

[Cripton805]

And there's one of the problems with the internet - a lot of info gets mixed, twisted, turned, whatever.
There may be recalls - but just saying "there's a bunch of recalls" or "there are multiple recalls" - for exploding transmissions?
Numbers, documents, examples, please.

OK, I just dug through Jeep Wrangler - 3 years worth, not a single transmission related recall.
Clutch overheating was the closest and that's totally unrelated to transmission failure.



Seriously? That's it? TOTALLY unrelated! Those aren't even transmission related failures! Those are all clutch over-heating. That's a very different discussion. This is about transmissions busting, not clutches getting hot or fires.
So - what you just posted doesn't count at all.

That is CLUTCH issues - NOT transmission. Go back and read, and look at the pictures.
YOU are talking clutches, we are talking transmission.
One does not cause the other, nor are they even related. You may as well have posted about the shift knob coming loose.

WE are talking busted transmission
YOU are talking about burning clutches
Apples and oranges

?

What gets damaged when it blows up?
Instead of arguing, address the issue. You got what you asked for. Threads with similar damage and reported issues.

 

[Sandevino]

Here is the recall. He's right. If this was a pre-recall build. This is the first one I saw where the whole thing just blew up though. I thought most of these issues were long over, if indeed this is what happened.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/JEEP/WRANGLER/SUV/4WD%2520Later%2520Release#recalls400

Two pressure plate recalls and one for an incorrect parking rod. I saw nothing about an exploading transmission but maybe I missed it.

 

[NachoRuby]

Two pressure plate recalls and one for an incorrect parking rod. I saw nothing about an exploading transmission but maybe I missed it.

No, I haven't seen exploding transmission either. It just mentions "damage to other nearby components".

Being a '21, it could be on the cusp of having had the recall done, being built after the recall, or being built before but never having been updated.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Here is the recall. He's right. If this was a pre-recall build. This is the first one I saw where the whole thing just blew up though. I thought most of these issues were long over, if indeed this is what happened.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/JEEP/WRANGLER/SUV/4WD%2520Later%2520Release#recalls400

Clutch........... all of the drivetrain stuff is clutch other than incorrect park rod, etc.

What gets damaged when it blows up?

When a clutch blows, it destroys the bell housing area. If a clutch totally let loose, there'd be damage up front and a wrecked clutch.
Have you see blown clutches or shattered flywheels? It destroys the bell housing. It won't crack the transmission case in the middle like this damage.
The recalls are known clutch issues.
I'd bet this one involved has already been in for the recall - if not, then they can't blame anyone else.

Been a mechanic for decades, have yet to see an exploding clutch bust a transmission case in half.
I have seen busted bell housings.

I'm looking for a case where a proven clutch failure split the transmission case in half where the gears are.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

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No. I haven't seen exploding either. It just mentions "damage to other nearby components".

Because it will kill the bell housing area, and anything that is around the perimeter of the exploding clutch.

 

[Cripton805]

I anyone wants to join the sister forum and dig further in regards to this specific issue. It's free. Yes, the clutch / pressure plate can overheat and grenade. There has been more than 1 documented incident.

 

[Sandevino]

I was a BSF (broke, stuck and fu*ked) heavy diesel mechanic for decades and I’ve seen heavy clutches blow up. Not once did they cause the carnage in the OP’s pictures.

I truly hope this is recall or non-operator related failure as it looks like an expensive repair.

 

[NachoRuby]

I anyone wants to join the sister forum and dig further in regards to this specific issue. It's free. Yes, the clutch / pressure plate can overheat and grenade. There has been more than 1 documented incident.

I'm sure it can. On this side, all I'd seen was a lot of folks burning up the stock weak clutch. I wonder if this particular Jeep was ever in for the recall or not? I had planned going Centerforce or SB if/when the stock clutch goes out on mine.

It's tough when someone else is driving your vehicle though, which is why I'm skeptical that this one wasn't the error of the OPs friend. But I am hopeful that the dealership comes around for the OP.

 

[Sandevino]

I'm sure it can. On this side, all I'd seen was a lot of folks burning up the stock weak clutch. I wonder if this particular Jeep was ever in for the recall or not? I had planned going Centerforce or SB if/when the stock clutch goes out on mine.

It's tough when someone else is driving your vehicle though, which is why I'm skeptical that this one wasn't the error of the OPs friend. But I am hopeful that the dealership comes around for the OP.

No one aside from my wife drives my vehicles. Not friends, not extended family and Jesus himself is riding shotgun….

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