The Most Effective Steering Wander Fix Cost Me $0 (Updated 1-7-23)

[Lunentucker]

Yes, but what I said stands with the minor mod of "adjustable control arms or brackets".
A stock gladiator can't even have that done.
Caster split can't be changed on a solid axle.

Correct. Please note the post by the gentleman who resurrected the thread. His mention of geometry correction brackets is overt.
The brackets are relatively cheap, relatively easy to install, and very effective.
In fact, if I were to buy another stock Mojave, I would be inclined to install the brackets right out of the gate.
I have a theory that the Mojave package steals some caster from the factory setup.

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[DocGladiator]

Valid point.
If you have your alignment sheet after they were done please post it. I haven't had mine done since I got it handling great but I've been curious to see what my setup actually is on the numbers.

I don’t have it unfortunately… Never did get a sheet now that I think of it ?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Correct. Please note the post by the gentleman who resurrected the thread. His mention of geometry correction brackets is overt.
The brackets are relatively cheap, relatively easy to install, and very effective.
In fact, if I were to buy another stock Mojave, I would be inclined to install the brackets right out of the gate.
I have a theory that the Mojave package steals some caster from the factory setup.

I suspect that's true of Mojave and Rubicon both..... caster isn't strong on these in any case.
My 2020 Overland was at the very bottom of specs. It barely made caster.
The brackets may be an effective (and relatively simple) way to improve caster.

 

[Lunentucker]

I suspect that's true of Mojave and Rubicon both..... caster isn't strong on these in any case.
My 2020 Overland was at the very bottom of specs. It barely made caster.
The brackets may be an effective (and relatively simple) way to improve caster.

The longer Mopar LCAs would be dirt cheap and super easy, but I wasn't sure that they'd overcome the Mojave setup and the 2" lift.
I think they're around $50 each?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The longer Mopar LCAs would be dirt cheap and super easy, but I wasn't sure that they'd overcome the Mojave setup and the 2" lift.
I think they're around $50 each?

I think I paid 60 for a pair plus shipping. They are 1/4" longer than "stock". I put them on but my 2022 is solid and stable anyway. The 2022 is a lot tighter than 2020 was even though it was fine in the end.

 

[Lunentucker]

I don’t have it unfortunately… Never did get a sheet now that I think of it ?

Mine is scheduled for the Z60 PCM flash next Monday. I've been considering adding an alignment, just to see what my caster is after dropping another hole one the brackets. I think you've convinced me.

 

[Darkspeed]

Mine is scheduled for the Z60 PCM flash next Monday. I've been considering adding an alignment, just to see what my caster is after dropping another hole one the brackets. I think you've convinced me.

What hole are you using on your geo brackets?

Im in the center hole.

3" lift front and i think my caster is 7 something, i have to check

 

[Lunentucker]

What hole are you using on your geo brackets?

Im in the center hole.

3" lift front and i think my caster is 7 something, i have to check

My brackets are Rancho. Second hole now. That's why I'm curious. If it's less than 6 I might try another hole down just to see how it feels.

 

[Darkspeed]

mine are rancho as well.

 

[Lunentucker]

mine are rancho as well.

Then I'm probably closer to 7 as well. I did have them in the first hole for a while but the drop to the second made great from good.

 

[Darkspeed]

Ok, i went out to get the printout,
my lift in front is exactly 3"
Center hole on Rancho brackets
Caster Left 7.3 deg
Caster Right 7.5 deg

 

[Darkspeed]

The Alignment sheet says the allowable caster is 4.0 - 5.5
So Im way out of what they consider spec.

 

[Lunentucker]

Ok, i went out to get the printout,
my lift in front is exactly 3"
Center hole on Rancho brackets
Caster Left 7.3 deg
Caster Right 7.5 deg

What's your base model? Mojave? Rubicon?

 

[Lunentucker]

The Alignment sheet says the allowable caster is 4.0 - 5.5
So Im way out of what they consider spec.

Yeah. Most of my reading leans towards 6-6.5 as ideal.

 

[Darkspeed]

I like the sturdiness of the Rancho brackets however i was less than pleased with the bolt hole tolerance. In fact at some point going to pull them and reevaluate bolt diameters.

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