Possible to be leveled and still not be level?

[jav_eee]

Bought the jeep used, just checked and it has a teraflex 1” spacer installed but the jeep still has a pretty noticeable rake to it. From the frame the difference is about 1.25”. Also, are these the stock springs for a rubicon?

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[ShadowsPapa]

Bought the jeep used, just checked and it has a teraflex 1” spacer installed but the jeep still has a pretty noticeable rake to it. From the frame the difference is about 1.25”. Also, are these the stock springs for a rubicon?

You can't tell a spring by just looking. And - there are multiple spring numbers used under Rubicon.
There should be a tag on the spring with a part number. That may give a clue more than anything else. And how springs look has also varied over the years - a 2020 Rubicon front spring may look different from a 2023 front spring, and again, there are multiple spring numbers for each version of the Gladiator. There's no one number for Rubicon, there's no one number for Overland and so on. I've had 2 Overlands and 4 different front spring numbers. (and I have a pair of front Rubicon springs sitting here, too - and those will be different from the springs under another person's Rubicon.

A "leveling kit" doesn't mean ALL Gladiators will be "level" after using it, just means "more level", take out some rake.
The amount of rake can vary from the factory, so 1" may level out on, and not another version of the JT.
What you have is a 1" spacer kit up front - doesn't mean it will sit level. Some may take 1.5"
Go by looks, not the frame, because there's a natural slope to the frame in some areas anyway.
Stand back and look at it. One tell that things vary under there is the fact that accessories like steps, especially certain power steps, use different brackets for the front, middle and rear of the step. That's because of the way the frame vs. body sit in relation to each other.

One example of the possible Rubicon front springs -

 

[kickingaz]

100% agree with @ShadowsPapa about the springs. I had a Max Tow in the past that has different springs than a Sport. And my Rubicon diesel has a different spring than a gas Rubicon. Another huge factor will be if you change the front bumper and add a winch.

 

[jav_eee]

Well I meant should I be closer to being leveled with the 1” puck installed.

definitely looks like it’s not level. And there’s no tag on either front spring.

i have a rubicon with the “trailer tow” package (as stated on the window sticker).

I bought this same kit before I even looked under the jeep. Now I don’t know what I should do. Different springs?

 

[dayusmc]

I bought my Gladiator used too. It came with a 1.5" Daystar level kit. It still sat low in the front, I had to add another 1" to the front to actually level it. My truck is all stock except wheels and tires. Doesn't seem like there is a method to the madness on how much up front you need to be level.

 

[jav_eee]

I bought my Gladiator used too. It came with a 1.5" Daystar level kit. It still sat low in the front, I had to add another 1" to the front to actually level it. My truck is all stock except wheels and tires. Doesn't seem like there is a method to the madness on how much up front you need to be level.

I guess I’ll add another inch to it.

this is how it currently sits:

 

[ATL_Rubi]

Here's my 23 with the 1.5 inch teraflex leveling kit. 1st and 2nd pictures are next to a Rubicon on 35s and no lift.

 

[jav_eee]

Here's my 23 with the 1.5 inch teraflex leveling kit. 1st and 2nd pictures are next to a Rubicon on 35s and no lift.

yours is definitely more level than mine is…

 

[ATL_Rubi]

yours is definitely more level than mine is…

Yours also looks to have had the spring isolator removed. The Teraflex kit asks to use the spring Isolator which maybe adds another quarter inch. With that you'll be closer to level but will likely need the additional .5 spacer also to be fully level.

 

[jav_eee]

Yours also looks to have had the spring isolator removed. The Teraflex kit asks to use the spring Isolator which maybe adds another quarter inch. With that you'll be closer to level but will likely need the additional .5 spacer also to be fully level.

good eye! It definitely is missing that isolator!

 

[ATL_Rubi]

good eye! It definitely is missing that isolator!

Adding that will get you closer to level, but Teraflex notes that the 1 inch will still have some rake. I'm not sure how tall the isolator is, but it makes a small difference.

 

[jav_eee]

Adding that will get you closer to level, but Teraflex notes that the 1 inch will still have some rake. I'm not sure how tall the isolator is, but it makes a small difference.

Looking online it seems like it’s the same part number for both right and left isolator. Is that right?

 

[ATL_Rubi]

If I had to take a guess, yes.

 

[kickingaz]

If you want to get your JT exactly level, another option you can use is the JKS ACOS system. This will allow for a 1.0" to 3.5" lift and is adjustable to any level. I had this on my JKUR for years and it worked well. They also make them for the rear and you could level all four corners of the Jeep.

https://jksmfg.com/collections/glad...h-bump-stop-acos-wrangler-jl-and-gladiator-jt

 

[sharpsicle]

Here's my 23 with the 1.5 inch teraflex leveling kit. 1st and 2nd pictures are next to a Rubicon on 35s and no lift.

Actually looks like the front is too high now...

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