Well, the end is near...for an affordable Wrangler

[Not2Late]

Just saw this story. Alludes to the Wrangler going all-electric at some point:
All-Electric Jeep Line-up

Looks like things may be going the way of Mad Max and the never-ending quest for the dwindling "juice" on the back country trails of America. Are we all driving the last of the gas-powered interceptors? Ha!

Does seem like this could make jeeping (not just driving around town - which I suppose is what the corporate business model says most buyers do) a little less accessable for folks. I can't imagine seeing a charging station at the top of a trail someplace. Hey...maybe that will be a business model for me. Drive around with a big gas powered charger and rescue folks out of . I wonder if anyone is working on a deployable solar rack system over the bed?
I can also see jeeps becoming much more difficult to updgrade and work on for the average person. My '21 JT is already much more electronically complicated than my '14 JK was.

I think I am hanging on to my JT and JK for a while!

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[ShadowsPapa]

Does seem like this could make jeeping (not just driving around town - which I suppose is what the corporate business model says most buyers do) a little less accessable for folks.

That's exactly what most Jeep owners really do. It's not a myth. It pisses "real Jeep people" off (define that one for me, eh?) but it's a fact, if it wasn't for people like me, my wife, and others, your precious Jeep brand would be dead and buried, a memory of the past.
Of the tens of thousands of Wranglers and Gladiator sold, only a small percentage ever actually "hit the trail". Many states don't even have good places to go "off road" unless you drive hundreds of miles - or go to another state. But those who live where the trails are only a half day away insist, that's what most Jeep owners do. False. I'd be willing to bet the number is actually single digits percentage-wise.

Every company has talked about going electric - not just Jeep. And to sell in the EU, or even here, VA and CA, they must at least offer it.
Now be careful with that- it's not always a case of "we won't build ANYTHING BUT electric" but is most often "every model we make will be offered in electric". So read very carefully.
The whole Jeep line will be electrified, but that is not saying that's ALL that is available. It only means if you want any model Jeep in electric, you can have it, while those who want gas can have that too - at least for a while, yet.
"our entire line will be electrified" is NOT saying "that's all we'll be selling".
But - the industry is moving that direction slowly and there may be a point in the future where there won't be ICE power available, but I don't see that soon.

Be careful about the BS you read in the "automotive blogs".

 

[Cansberry]

There’s no sourcing, no other articles With similar info, nada. Only time will really tell. But just like there are a couple fuel options now, there’s going to be a few in the future.

 

[Rahkmalla]

Jeep has commited to every model having an electrified option by 2025. That doesn't mean every model will have an electric option, and it certainly doesn't mean every model will be only electric.

With the history and the core audience of the Wrangler, i imagine it will probably be one of the last models standing in the industry with a gas options. Gladiator? Who knows.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Jeep has commited to every model having an electrified option by 2025. That doesn't mean every model will have an electric option, and it certainly doesn't mean every model will be only electric.

With the history and the core audience of the Wrangler, i imagine it will probably be one of the last models standing in the industry with a gas options. Gladiator? Who knows.

I took it as meaning they'll expand the 4xe concept, and/or add other electric options, possibly all electric on some models.
Electrification - in one way, shape or form, is one reason Cherokee was sunsetted. 'to concentrate on electrification'. They actually said that in one interview.

Like you said - that can mean anything from 4xe to some other form, or pure EV. It isn't saying anything other than 'in some way, there will be electric involved in propulsion'.

In any case, this has been hashed out, chewed on, barfed back out like a cow's cud over and over.
There's no use getting too worked up over it - it is what it is and Jeep needs to survive if we want any form of them around in 20 years.
You adapt and survive, or stay stubborn and true to a small subset of customers and die a slow death.

 

[Hootbro]

Phrasing and omission words tells a lot. Makes great headlines for the clicks but critical thinking has to come in eventually.

They are bringing in a "all" electric Wrangler model. Nothing about killing off ICE Wranglers in their entirety.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Phrasing and omission words tells a lot. Makes great headlines for the clicks but critical thinking has to come in eventually.

They are bring in a "all" electric Wrangler model. Nothing about killing off ICE Wranglers in their entirety.

Same stupid article making a ruckus in other Jeep areas, too.
They are guessing, paraphrasing, twisting words and seem to be suggesting things they don't know about.
Click bait. Hardly journalism and hardly worth any Jeep person's time reading let alone getting upset about.
May as well get your automotive news from one of my cats - they'd likely be more honest and accurate.

 

[bakobobby]

That's exactly what most Jeep owners really do. It's not a myth. It pisses "real Jeep people" off (define that one for me, eh?) but it's a fact, if it wasn't for people like me, my wife, and others, your precious Jeep brand would be dead and buried, a memory of the past.

Rare occasion I have to disagree ? as an off-roader since a young age I can say for myself and many others thank goodness for a rich supply of used, often well maintained 4x4s. Thats how most of us got started. So thank you I guess and keep buying them ?

 

[ZoMojave]

But - the industry is moving that direction slowly and there may be a point in the future where there won't be ICE power available, but I don't see that soon.

Be careful about the BS you read in the "automotive blogs".

You nailed it. Thank you.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Rare occasion I have to disagree ? as an off-roader since a young age I can say for myself and many others thank goodness for a rich supply of used, often well maintained 4x4s. Thats how most of us got started. So thank you I guess and keep buying them ?

I only said that the "off-roaders" are the minority. Not that they don't exist, or that there's not a fair number. But many "Jeep people" treat Wranglers and similar as if they are the majority of all owners and most Jeep owners DO buy them for off-roading.
That's simply not true.
If you take all owners of Wrangler, just for the sake of argument, JK or JL, you'll find most - and that's a big most - will not off-road them. Most will never take them where many 4x4 pickups can't go.
All you have to do is look around in states like FL, IA and others - count 100 Wranglers and of those, I'd bet 90% see only highways or streets or uses that even a ZJ or WJ could handle without modifications. Most I've seen aren't lifted and are modified purely for appearance's sake.
If you take away the buyers who don't off road and who likely never will - the brand would fail. We've owned Jeeps since the late 1980s. A long list. My brother has owned countless Jeeps
including TJ, CJ, JK, and others, and has never taken one off the streets.

In short - you are not the typical or even mainstream Jeep buyer. You are the exception. So saying Jeep should only build for someone like you, or who demands it be capable of miles of off-road travel means Jeep's demise.

 

[bakobobby]

I only said that the "off-roaders" are the minority. Not that they don't exist, or that there's not a fair number. But many "Jeep people" treat Wranglers and similar as if they are the majority of all owners and most Jeep owners DO buy them for off-roading.
That's simply not true.
If you take all owners of Wrangler, just for the sake of argument, JK or JL, you'll find most - and that's a big most - will not off-road them. Most will never take them where many 4x4 pickups can't go.
All you have to do is look around in states like FL, IA and others - count 100 Wranglers and of those, I'd bet 90% see only highways or streets or uses that even a ZJ or WJ could handle without modifications. Most I've seen aren't lifted and are modified purely for appearance's sake.
If you take away the buyers who don't off road and who likely never will - the brand would fail. We've owned Jeeps since the late 1980s. A long list. My brother has owned countless Jeeps
including TJ, CJ, JK, and others, and has never taken one off the streets.

In short - you are not the typical or even mainstream Jeep buyer. You are the exception. So saying Jeep should only build for someone like you, or who demands it be capable of miles of off-road travel means Jeep's demise.

Clears up what you are thinking. Even the non-jeepers you speak of buy jeeps for the image of “off roadin” or “adventuring. Like folks that buy those crazy expensive dive watches that barely know how to swim ?

 

[mpsoldier]

I think the quest to electrify all vehicles will begin to fade out some. The US doesn't have the electrical capacity too power an all electric vehicle fleet. That push is largely politically driven. 1 or 2 more power grid failures like Texas experienced or Florida after a hurricane or California the second it hits 100 degrees across the state will begin to change minds. Until the US begins building nuclear power plants in ever state we won't have the proper capacity.

BUT a majority of people do spend 95% of their Jeep time on paved roads as others noted here. As much as I enjoy the trail, I still gotta work 50+ hours a week to afford to live in CA and pay my ever increasing electrical bill.

 

[Gvsukids]

Same stupid article making a ruckus in other Jeep areas, too.
They are guessing, paraphrasing, twisting words and seem to be suggesting things they don't know about.
Click bait. Hardly journalism and hardly worth any Jeep person's time reading let alone getting upset about.
May as well get your automotive news from one of my cats - they'd likely be more honest and accurate.

Everytime a new article comes out telling us the same information, another thread is started.

 

[ScottBeach]

Your Gladiator is electric. Just pull the batteries and try to start it. /s

Making the roof solar panels(flat already) would be great way to charge some

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Your Gladiator is electric. Just pull the batteries and try to start it. /s

Making the roof solar panels(flat already) would be great way to charge some

LOL.
Well, they went and removed that darned crank spot like my F20 had.
sprint cars run magneto ignition - why can't I?

Anyway, saw a bit on an EV - a car that could go over 600 miles and was kept charged much of the time with built-on solar panels. The Jeep is perfect for flat panels. Just keep the snow brushed off.

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