Clayton 1.5 inch Right Ride or Overland? Is it essential to opt for the Overland package, including the 8 control arms?

[Main Line Willys]

I ordered on Friday (Black Friday) and received shipping confirmation today.

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[hickman785]

Yes, I was at stock height with the Mopar LCAs. I didn’t have a lift of any kind until a few weeks ago. Wheelin98TJ is exactly right on the length of the Mopar kit arms. I didn’t check my caster before changing LCAs but did afterward. The driver’s side caster after installing the extened arms was 6.4 and passenger side 6.6. According to my local alignment shop, it was out of spec but it drove very well and I put over 18k miles on it after the change and the tires were wearing perfectly with rotations about every 5k miles. Before buying the Mopar LCA set I read quiet a bit about changing caster using upper vs lower adjustable arms. I honestly didn't understand everything but for a non lifted JT, it didn't seem to matter which ones were used. As you go up in height the more it matters because the geometry changes more drastically. At some point you need adjustable uppers and lowers to have everything lined up properly, and the consensus seemed to be they were needed if going up more than 2”.

Your point about not having to worry about adjusting the control arms was something I thought about when buying my first set of arms. The fact that I could have a set delivered for about $75 was what ultimately made up my mind. For that price even if they didn’t help, I wasn’t out much but they made a very noticeable difference driving. If you are worried about adjusting the control arms, you don’t need to. I set mine to the length recommended in Claytons instructions and they were fine. This past weekend I had to remove the rear springs because one of them was squeaking badly. The reason being because I was trying to use the oem spring sleeves and they did not fit the Clayton springs well. One of them popped off while I was getting the new spring into place and rather than pull the spring out and start again, I got lazy and left it off. After putting up with the sound for over a week, I ordered a set of sleeves that fit the larger diameter Clayton springs and put them on Saturday. While I had the control arms loose to drop the axle, I took the upper control arms off and made one turn on each side to improve the pinion angle a little. Once you are under the Jeep and actually see how everything works together, it is not nearly as complicated as I thought it would be.

Where did you order the coil sleeves to fit the Clayton springs?

 

[Idlethunder]

Where did you order the coil sleeves to fit the Clayton springs?

Below are the sleeves I used. The fit well and completely got rid of the squeak

https://www.034motorsport.com/coil-spring-sleeves.html

 

[hickman785]

Below are the sleeves I used. The fit well and completely got rid of the squeak

https://www.034motorsport.com/coil-spring-sleeves.html

Thank you

 

[Main Line Willys]

Can these sleeves be added without removing the springs?

Are they split down the side?

 

[Idlethunder]

Can these sleeves be added without removing the springs?

Are they split down the side?

The sleeves are split on the inside but I removed my springs to add them. It might be possible to do with them in but I didn't even try.

 

[kilroy173]

How many of those do you use per spring?

 

[Idlethunder]

How many of those do you use per spring?

I only used one sleeve per spring and no longer have any squeaking

 

[Elgin]

I only used one sleeve per spring and no longer have any squeaking

Wait. I didn't install any of those. Will I be fine??

 

[Elgin]

Completed.

 

[Idlethunder]

Completed.

It looks great. If you don't have any noise coming from the springs, you are fine. When I installed my 2.5 lift, I took the sleeves off the OEM springs and put them on the Clayton springs. While installing the new springs, one of the sleeves popped off a rear spring while I was shoehorning it in. Rather than pull the spring and put the sleeve back on, I was tired and lazy and left it off. During my first drive after the install, I could hear a little squeak coming from the rear axle, but it wasn’t too bad. By the end of the first week, it was loud and driving my crazy. At that point I ordered the new sleeves and once installed, no more squeak.

 

[dayusmc]

It looks great. If you don't have any noise coming from the springs, you are fine. When I installed my 2.5 lift, I took the sleeves off the OEM springs and put them on the Clayton springs. While installing the new springs, one of the sleeves popped off a rear spring while I was shoehorning it in. Rather than pull the spring and put the sleeve back on, I was tired and lazy and left it off. During my first drive after the install, I could hear a little squeak coming from the rear axle, but it wasn’t too bad. By the end of the first week, it was loud and driving my crazy. At that point I ordered the new sleeves and once installed, no more squeak.

Did you put the sleeves closer to the top or in the middle?

 

[Idlethunder]

Did you put the sleeves closer to the top or in the middle?

I put mine on top

 

[Elgin]

I ordered on Friday (Black Friday) and received shipping confirmation today.

Did you install yours?

 

[dayusmc]

Mine still have not shipped. I have to order them from somewhere else...

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