Mileage - How high is too high?

[KevinC]

Like no seat or shoulder belts?
I figure - learn early, then you won't be surprised in the future and screaming at dad - no one told me about these things......

Yeah, we want better, but I always figured - learn the hard stuff instead of learning easy then being shocked later when you get into that IH Scout.

At 14 I bought my first car - parents said I needed to pay for it, insurance, gas, upkeep and so on.
I was able to drive almost anything by the time I was 16-18. Came in handy later.

I wanted my kids safe, but I also wanted them to be able to handle whatever came their way, all sorts of cars and so on.

Yeah, I could have commented about my first vehicle, 1969 IH Scout 800. I had to pump the brakes twice for them to engage, never wore a seat belt, the seat weren't even bolted in correctly. On top of that I was running 36" tall tires on a 93 inch wheelbase. I bought it with my own money.

I will guarantee if my parents knew how unsafe it was, they would have taken it from me. Not saying they turned a blind eye and hoped for the best, but they didn't know. I drove it within the limits of what it was safely capable of doing. I learned a hard but valuable lesson on driving. My next vehicle was a brand new Ford Bronco. Because of the overall safety features it had over the Scout, I was probably more careless in it.

I'm not telling anyone with a 16 y/o child to go buy them a piece of crap hooptie and hand them the keys and say " go learn the hard way". But...making them learn some driving style/conditions that force them to be more aware isn't a bad thing either

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[WILDHOBO]

Yeah, I could have commented about my first vehicle, 1969 IH Scout 800. I had to pump the brakes twice for them to engage, never wore a seat belt, the seat weren't even bolted in correctly. On top of that I was running 36" tall tires on a 93 inch wheelbase. I bought it with my own money.

I will guarantee if my parents knew how unsafe it was, they would have taken it from me. Not saying they turned a blind eye and hoped for the best, but they didn't know. I drove it within the limits of what it was safely capable of doing. I learned a hard but valuable lesson on driving. My next vehicle was a brand new Ford Bronco. Because of the overall safety features it had over the Scout, I was probably more careless in it.

I'm not telling anyone with a 16 y/o child to go buy them a piece of crap hooptie and hand them the keys and say " go learn the hard way". But...making them learn some driving style/conditions that force them to be more aware isn't a bad thing either

Agreed. I value having learned to drive on snow and ice with rear wheel drive and no abs or traction control. I still rely on those skills and the new technologies just makes it that much safer.

 

[sarguy1941]

Our 2009 JKhas 190K on it and still going strong.

 

[Blade1668]

I took my driving test in my brother's 1970 Dodge 440 6 Pack SuperBee. My brother is 11 years older than me. I got to drive all of his cool cars.

When my daughter turned 16 and got her license. She wanted a car. Told her she has to have a job first. She replied back, need car for job. This went on for about a week. I got her a car. A 1990 Dodge Shadow. Paid $2,500. If she killed it. I wasn't out much. It was safe and reliable. Told her, I got you the car. Now you have to pay for your insurance. She gave me $100 a month from her pay check, which I put into a saving account. She drove that Shadow all through high school. She took care of it. Never wrecked it. For graduation, she needed a newer car. So I got her a Pontiac Grand Am. She used for college. And she wrecked twice. The same right front bender both times. After college, she traded it in and got her first Jeep.

Funny, I took mine in 72 Skylark that barely passed the tech check before my driver's license test. A buddy of mine had. Thankfully there wasn't any wet pavement that day....

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