Spiderweb shade with sunrider?

[ShadowsPapa]

Will a Spiderweb shade worth with a sunrider (Bestop sunrider but from the factory)
Specifically, will this
https://www.spiderwebshade.com/collections/gladiator/products/jtgladiator?variant=28329492349014
work with the sunrider?

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[Janster]

What are you trying to do? Curious…
I didn’t think you could have the Sunrider mounted without the hardtop in place??

Sorry…photo shows a full length sunshade.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

What are you trying to do? Curious…
I didn’t think you could have the Sunrider mounted without the hardtop in place??

Sorry…photo shows a full length sunshade.

Yes, and I have a full length sunshade in my truck right now with the full roof in place. It stays there from day one.
So - Maybe you don't know what a spiderweb sunshade is.
You pull the roof, install the sunshade and it stays there always - all the time, and you put the roof back on..
It's there under all situations - Top fully on, panels in, panels out, top fully off, doesn't matter. It attaches to the roll cage.

I am asking if having a sunshade interferes with operation of the sunrider.
It does make getting to the latches of the front panels a bit tougher - doable but not quite as easy.

 

[kevman65]

The main problem would be closing your Sunrider from the cab.

You'd have to get out to close the Sunrider then back in to latch it down.

Also the attachment point(s) of the Spiderweb could interfere with the attachment points for the Sunrider.
Without having the Spiderweb on hand myself, it's hard to judge where the grommets are and where the bungees would go. There is room between the Sport Bar and Sunrider mounts because I have grab handles installed in that real estate.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The main problem would be closing your Sunrider from the cab.

You'd have to get out to close the Sunrider then back in to latch it down.

Also the attachment point(s) of the Spiderweb could interfere with the attachment points for the Sunrider.
Without having the Spiderweb on hand myself, it's hard to judge where the grommets are and where the bungees would go. There is room between the Sport Bar and Sunrider mounts because I have grab handles installed in that real estate.

Exactly what I was looking for.
The one point - closing - would be an inconvenience for sure,
the other - mounting points I hadn't considered that as they'd both mount on the bar.

This shows the two bungees going over, wrapping out and around, down and you can see the silver "grommets" under the screws that the bungee shade attachments use

 

[Reddout99]

I am interested as well. I currently have another brand but similar to sunshade.
I could deal with the minor inconvenience of closing it and the front latch access, just wanted to make sure it will work with the same setup as ShadowsPapa shows

 

[kevman65]

Exactly what I was looking for.
The one point - closing - would be an inconvenience for sure,
the other - mounting points I hadn't considered that as they'd both mount on the bar.

This shows the two bungees going over, wrapping out and around, down and you can see the silver "grommets" under the screws that the bungee shade attachments use

Okay, by the picture the Sunrider mounting points are forward and aft of the two Spiderweb bungee's.
This image also shows the Sunrider mounting point in the middle front of the hard top would be accessible.

Still leaves you with the closing issue.
It may be possible to close (and open) by reaching through the window and up. Having never tried it from there, I don't know how much "torque" you'd need to pull it down. I know you're having issues so you need to consider that.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Okay, by the picture the Sunrider mounting points are forward and aft of the two Spiderweb bungee's.
This image also shows the Sunrider mounting point in the middle front of the hard top would be accessible.

Still leaves you with the closing issue.
It may be possible to close (and open) by reaching through the window and up. Having never tried it from there, I don't know how much "torque" you'd need to pull it down. I know you're having issues so you need to consider that.

Thanks, appreciate the input.
I may try to download the sunrider install documents (I've seen them, but never installed them and never paid attention to the mounting points) - and verify. Sounds like the mounting would likely not be an issue - but the other stuff......
Probably best to try the sunrider without that mesh shade first before ordering the green shade.
My wife likes the way the blue one "looks inside". LOL - she's a lot about appearances and asked if I would do that to the new one, but in green..

Her JLu doesn't even have a headliner - that's got to change soon but she doesn't want me taking the roof off "HER Jeep" for fear of messing it up.

 

[kevman65]

The Sunrider utilizes two vacant holes for mounting.

It appears the Spiderweb replaces existing screws with their attachment points.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The Sunrider utilizes two vacant holes for mounting.

It appears the Spiderweb replaces existing screws with their attachment points.

Yes, you remove the screws, put their 'grommets' on the screws and reinstall. It makes a point for the "bungee" to loop around to secure the shade. Definitely uses existing screws at every point.

The front hooks onto the edge of the front structure - lay the windshield forward and hook as shown at those points -

 

[Janster]

Yes, and I have a full length sunshade in my truck right now with the full roof in place. It stays there from day one.
So - Maybe you don't know what a spiderweb sunshade is.
You pull the roof, install the sunshade and it stays there always - all the time, and you put the roof back on..
It's there under all situations - Top fully on, panels in, panels out, top fully off, doesn't matter. It attaches to the roll cage.

I am asking if having a sunshade interferes with operation of the sunrider.
It does make getting to the latches of the front panels a bit tougher - doable but not quite as easy.

Yup…I’m familiar with those shades. I actually bought a Mastertop -it has two halves and is supposed to stay in place under the tops. The ONE time that Amazon said “It won’t fit your 2024” - I ordered it anyway and Yup…doesn’t fit 2024. Sent it back…..

I’m still struggling with the thought of having to totally un-install the Sunrider just to take the hardtop off.

The Sunrider is neat…. but for our situation, I wished someone made a soft version of a freedom panel that uses the exact same mounting points as the freedom panels.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m still struggling with the thought of having to totally un-install the Sunrider just to take the hardtop off.

Iowa the opportunities for removing the whole top and leaving it off for a day are slim anyway. 80 and sunny one day, 50 and rainy with extreme winds the next.
forecast for sunny and mild all day, you get an hour away and here comes a derecho and your panels are out. Thank goodness the top was at least on - and the panels were in the back!
Our number of really windy days also don't make it pleasant. So taking the whole top off is a seldom done thing. Seems to me the sunrider is an easy remove thing anyway and I can have the top off in minutes and hanging from the ceiling.

 

[Reddout99]

Yes, you remove the screws, put their 'grommets' on the screws and reinstall. It makes a point for the "bungee" to loop around to secure the shade. Definitely uses existing screws at every point.

The front hooks onto the edge of the front structure - lay the windshield forward and hook as shown at those points -

Interestingly, Shadeidea is the brand I have and it uses bungees with a plastic ball to wrap the bungee loop on. They do not need to add attachment points the one shown.
I don't think that would pose a problem Sunrider mounting points. Now I just have to muster up the courage to $pend the money for Surinder. I have seen some in the classifieds

 

[Reddout99]

Iowa the opportunities for removing the whole top and leaving it off for a day are slim anyway. 80 and sunny one day, 50 and rainy with extreme winds the next.
forecast for sunny and mild all day, you get an hour away and here comes a derecho and your panels are out. Thank goodness the top was at least on - and the panels were in the back!
Our number of really windy days also don't make it pleasant. So taking the whole top off is a seldom done thing. Seems to me the sunrider is an easy remove thing anyway and I can have the top off in minutes and hanging from the ceiling.

The humidity is the thing that starts getting to me mid-summer when I had my JKU. Taking the doors and top off are nice on the way to work in the mornings, but that ride home, even with a sunshade, is brutal. I end up putting everything back on so I can run AC

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Interestingly, Shadeidea is the brand I have and it uses bungees with a plastic ball to wrap the bungee loop on. They do not need to add attachment points the one shown.
I don't think that would pose a problem Sunrider mounting points. Now I just have to muster up the courage to $pend the money for Surinder. I have seen some in the classifieds

The "bungees" are made onto the shade mesh on this one. Is one better? Probably not but one would save about 10 minutes not needing to use a power screwdriver.

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