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If you really want to be cool, downsize your brakes and run 15s.
Like the full size trucks here with wheels spaced so far out only half is under the fender, and the wheels and tires look like they were stolen off some kid's hotwheels car.
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Like the full size trucks here with wheels spaced so far out only half is under the fender, and the wheels and tires look like they were stolen off some kid's hotwheels car.
A truck with 4 hemorrhoids!
 

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If you really want to be cool, downsize your brakes and run 15s.
Yup…back in the day (younger years), 15x8’s with 35x12.50’s…… Heck Yea!!
I wish I had more garage space. I’d have me another YJ or TJ to run around in. 😆
 

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Like the full size trucks here with wheels spaced so far out only half is under the fender, and the wheels and tires look like they were stolen off some kid's hotwheels car.
Around here, we call that the ‘Bro Stance’…… 🙄

My husband and I always say….… Yup…..He got those wheels & tires for free from his buddy (aka THEY WERE FREE …Offset? WHat’s Offset?)
 

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Yup…back in the day (younger years), 15x8’s with 35x12.50’s…… Heck Yea!!
I wish I had more garage space. I’d have me another YJ or TJ to run around in. 😆
If it's stock powertrain on 35s a TJ or YJ isn't running anywhere. Stock they were slow, lifted with big tires they could barely maintain freeway speeds with the top off.
 

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If it's stock powertrain on 35s a TJ or YJ isn't running anywhere. Stock they were slow, lifted with big tires they could barely maintain freeway speeds with the top off.
That’s true, but you could regear back then for $1k or less.
 

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That’s true, but you could regear back then for $1k or less.
If it was an auto your options were gear low enough for wheeling and be at 3k rpms at 55mph or gear high enough to roll freeway speed and have a 20-1 crawl ratio though.
 

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If it was an auto your options were gear low enough for wheeling and be at 3k rpms at 55mph or gear high enough to roll freeway speed and have a 20-1 crawl ratio though.
3K at highway speeds was totally common. The automatics I had came standard with 2.73 ratio, 3.15 optional.
In 1969 the dealer regeared the Javelin I had for a while - from 2.73 to 3.15 and the line item on the dealer sales slip given to the car's buyer - the original owner had kept when it bought it - said "gear ratio - $10"
 

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3K at highway speeds was totally common. The automatics I had came standard with 2.73 ratio, 3.15 optional.
In 1969 the dealer regeared the Javelin I had for a while - from 2.73 to 3.15 and the line item on the dealer sales slip given to the car's buyer - the original owner had kept when it bought it - said "gear ratio - $10"
With western freeway speeds, there's no way I could stomach a 3k rpm at 55mph. Especially in a Jeep. About half the 1,100 mile drive to Moab is 75-80mph speed limits. Even the high revving pentastar wouldn't like cruising for hours at 4500+ rpms, let alone the straight 6 in a tj or yj. Gladly spoiled with the modern 8 speed. I tell people all the time the most impressive thing about the JLUR is its on road ability. The most off road capable vehicle to ever come from a factory is also the most streetable wrangler ever. Even lifted on 39s, I can set the adaptive cruise at 85mph and go for 14 hours out to Moab all while enjoying satellite radio, and even seat heaters if it's winter. Get to Moab, air down, and run serious trails like Pritchett Canyon and cliffhanger for a week. Air up and drive it home like any other SUV on the street. And if I did my job as a driver everything above the sliders still looks like the things never left pavement. At this point even if I was building a classic car it would have to be a restomod as I'm not giving up the moden greatness.
 

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With western freeway speeds, there's no way I could stomach a 3k rpm at 55mph. Especially in a Jeep. About half the 1,100 mile drive to Moab is 75-80mph speed limits. Even the high revving pentastar wouldn't like cruising for hours at 4500+ rpms, let alone the straight 6 in a tj or yj. Gladly spoiled with the modern 8 speed. I tell people all the time the most impressive thing about the JLUR is its on road ability. The most off road capable vehicle to ever come from a factory is also the most streetable wrangler ever. Even lifted on 39s, I can set the adaptive cruise at 85mph and go for 14 hours out to Moab all while enjoying satellite radio, and even seat heaters if it's winter. Get to Moab, air down, and run serious trails like Pritchett Canyon and cliffhanger for a week. Air up and drive it home like any other SUV on the street. And if I did my job as a driver everything above the sliders still looks like the things never left pavement. At this point even if I was building a classic car it would have to be a restomod as I'm not giving up the moden greatness.
Hey, I agree - the numbers of people putting in OD automatics is GROWING. And it's one reason I wanted to keep the T5 in my SX4. I can cruise in it at about 2,000 RPM even at the speeds I drive.
 

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If it's stock powertrain on 35s a TJ or YJ isn't running anywhere. Stock they were slow, lifted with big tires they could barely maintain freeway speeds with the top off.
Our YJ was totally street legal and was fast enough on the highway…. stock 4.0L , manual transmission. I could go 60mph. 35x12.50’s, Dana 44’s, 4.56 gears, ARB’s….4.5” Rubicon Express lift, 1” body lift…rollcage, custom steering..and a boat load of other shit. I miss that jeep.

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Our YJ was totally street legal and was fast enough on the highway…. stock 4.0L.
35x12.50’s, Dana 44’s, 4.56 gears, ARB’s….4.5” Rubicon Express lift, 1” body lift…rollcage, custom steering..and a boat load of other shit. I miss that jeep.

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I guess "fast enough" is relative. 55mph on the highway is a far cry from 80+ on the freeway. Sure my old XJ was ok driving locally with 35x14.50 pit bull tires and 4.88s but it definitely wasn't getting driven to Moab 1,100 miles away. Even up to the rubicon 4 hours away it was mediocre going up I5 and could barely maintain speed on the way up the sierras. And even then the crawl ratio was an unimpressive 37.8-1. And it was a later model with overdrive. Get a YJ or early TJ with no overdrive and it's even worse. The JLUR in the driveway came with an 85.7-1 crawl ratio and even on 39s will cruise at 100mph if I want to. We are on Jeeps 15 and 16 in the driveway right now and I miss nothing about the zjs, yj, tj, jk, xjs, or wagoneers we built and wheeled over the years. The v8 wj was the only one that felt like it had enough power on road. The leather seats in that thing were amazing too. Still wouldn't go back by any means. The JLUR and the JT mojave are better on every way. Ever take a TJ through washboards at freeway speeds? Hard pass. The JT is more comfortable there at 70+ than the tj was on the freeway at that speed.
 

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Like the full size trucks here with wheels spaced so far out only half is under the fender, and the wheels and tires look like they were stolen off some kid's hotwheels car.
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