392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[ShadowsPapa]

Aren't all hemi's cast iron block vs the pentastar aluminum cast block?

ironic that the pseudo/faux hemi is still cast iron while the LS engines are aluminum.

faux-hemi heads are aluminum.

So it's V8 cast iron vs. the 3.6 die cast block (vs. just cast)

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[PuddleJumper]

ironic that the pseudo/faux hemi is still cast iron while the LS engines are aluminum.

faux-hemi heads are aluminum.

So it's V8 cast iron vs. the 3.6 die cast block (vs. just cast)

so thats why its boat anchor. I thought so.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

so thats why its boat anchor. I thought so.

It's still a very heavy engine considering that engines of the past might weigh 600-650 pounds with cast iron heads, intake, exhaust manifolds and more. Small blocks or the AMC 401 - roughly 550 pounds, all cast iron.

 

[Stan H]

Aren't all hemi's cast iron block vs the pentastar aluminum cast block?

Yes that I believe your correct on because it said it was a 90degree cast iron for the 6.4

 

[Stan H]

It's still a very heavy engine considering that engines of the past might weigh 600-650 pounds with cast iron heads, intake, exhaust manifolds and more. Small blocks or the AMC 401 - roughly 550 pounds, all cast iron.

And dont forget its 500 DRY WEIGHT.
That is minus oil 7.0 quarts ( 10pounds approx) and antifreeze ( maybe 10+ pounds floating around in there )

 

[AmosMoses]

What is the engine weight of the diesel that they used in the gladiator?

What is the weight difference between the 3.6 jlu and the 4XE jlu?

 

[Stan H]

What is the engine weight of the diesel that they used in the gladiator?

What is the weight difference between the 3.6 jlu and the 4XE jlu?

Oh Lord Lots of research to find all that out

 

[AmosMoses]

Oh Lord Lots of research to find all that out

Iam very curious because someone voiced weight concerns of putting a huge V8 in our tiny trucks.

 

[Stan H]

What is the engine weight of the diesel that they used in the gladiator?

What is the weight difference between the 3.6 jlu and the 4XE jlu?

485ibs. Compacted Graphite Iron block steel crank and aluminum alloy heads.

 

[jmr]

They will use a different transmission and full time 4WD transfer case so that will add to the weight. Maybe they should try the 3.0L Hurricane the SO/HO easily outperform the 5.7 and 392.

 

[PuddleJumper]

They will use a different transmission and full time 4WD transfer case so that will add to the weight. Maybe they should try the 3.0L Hurricane the SO/HO easily outperform the 5.7 and 392.

that i wouldn't mind. lets get back to the inline 6 days.

 

[BourbonRunner]

. Also from a legal standpoint, what happens when we swap management in 2 year and the odds of the EPA to come back in full swing? What Jeep gonna do with all of these non compliant models?

Even if there was a reversion to CAFE fines, the vehicles subject to it on lots would likely be negligible-this admin is in until Jan 2029. JT is contracted to the UAW through 2028 but it doesn't guarantee numbers built. If the tea leaves were changing Jeep could throttle down production in advance. Furthermore, I don't know for certain but I thought CAFE fines were hitched to units built per year, not actual sales. I'm confident the fines can't be made retroactive to vehicles built in 2028 if that's the case.

2 years is way to short for that gamble. Not to mention it shows Jeep still isn't listening, most gladiator owners don't want a 392 Mojave/Rubicon X @ 145k MSRP. We want a Willys or Max Tow w/ a 5.7 as a 3k option.

Tt is a major gamble and you're right, it doesn't make much sense. Then again, Jeep and Stellysler have been doing things that don't make sense for some time so it would track.

That said, the 5.7 and 392 could live side by side in the stable. A 5.7L option on a Max Tow, Rubicon and Mojave with a halo $100K 392 monster would be wild.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Even if there was a reversion to CAFE fines, the vehicles subject to it on lots would likely be negligible-this admin is in until Jan 2029. JT is contracted to the UAW through 2028 but it doesn't guarantee numbers built. If the tea leaves were changing Jeep could throttle down production in advance. Furthermore, I don't know for certain but I thought CAFE fines were hitched to units built per year, not actual sales. I'm confident the fines can't be made retroactive to vehicles built in 2028 if that's the case.



Tt is a major gamble and you're right, it doesn't make much sense. Then again, Jeep and Stellysler have been doing things that don't make sense for some time so it would track.

That said, the 5.7 and 392 could live side by side in the stable. A 5.7L option on a Max Tow, Rubicon and Mojave with a halo $100K 392 monster would be wild.

I want whatever the Execs at Stellantis/Jeep are smoking. It must be amazing

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Iam very curious because someone voiced weight concerns of putting a huge V8 in our tiny trucks.

It's a valid point.

Also valid ........ is the placement of the weight.
The 4xe weight is low center. It actually improves stability and ride. (that's been brought up in a number of videos by long-time Jeep people on youtube as well as other articles)

Payload, well.......

I compared as we have a 2023 Rubicon 4xe..

The standard JLU Rubicon with 3.6 is about 4500 pounds
The standard JLU Rubicon 4xe is about 5200 pounds.
The JLU Rubicon with a 6.4 is about 5100 pounds

Some of the above differences are the transmission and transfer case, again, low and center.

However, the bulk of the weight sits in the center, just ahead of the rear wheels, and really down low, below the rear seats. The bulks of the extra weight, in other words, is under the rear seats.
Engine weight of a V8 will be above the axles and up front.

If you figure a V8's extra weight, the required transfer case and transmission, you'll be taking away what, about 600 pounds from payload - without other modifications?

Does that sound about right?

 

[Stan H]

It's a valid point.

Also valid ........ is the placement of the weight.
The 4xe weight is low center. It actually improves stability and ride. (that's been brought up in a number of videos by long-time Jeep people on youtube as well as other articles)

Payload, well.......

I compared as we have a 2023 Rubicon 4xe..

The standard JLU Rubicon with 3.6 is about 4500 pounds
The standard JLU Rubicon 4xe is about 5200 pounds.
The JLU Rubicon with a 6.4 is about 5100 pounds

Some of the above differences are the transmission and transfer case, again, low and center.

However, the bulk of the weight sits in the center, just ahead of the rear wheels, and really down low, below the rear seats. The bulks of the extra weight, in other words, is under the rear seats.
Engine weight of a V8 will be above the axles and up front.

If you figure a V8's extra weight, the required transfer case and transmission, you'll be taking away what, about 600 pounds from payload - without other modifications?

Does that sound about right?

I would say that is close on the money when you consider as I stated with fluids.

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