392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Stan H]

It dates back to the Willys Jeeps.
There is the GME 4T like in our JLU - it's also called a hurricane engine.

Wonder if thats where they got the idea to mate the electric motors to a 4 cylinder ?? Or it was room ans space need etc...

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[jmr]

CEOs don't make the budgets, do the engineering, pass the tests and so on. They can say all they want, and typically do, in press events like that. It's a vision, maybe a high level plan at best. That's all.

Except for Lee Iacocca where he set the tempo and had his buddy Carol Shelby design the Viper.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Except for Lee Iacocca where he set the tempo and had his buddy Carol Shelby design the Viper.

Always exceptions. And then there's the Eagle where the engineers and design team when to the board two times, and finally, a board desperate for something new, said yes. By that time, too little, too late. Otherwise the Eagle would have been released to the public in the mid-1970s.

Jeep is around because Iacocca saw the Grand Cherokee in the works and wanted it badly (as well as magnum engine designs.)(this from a man who was there at the time)
Iacocca was also a liar and didn't give a rip about the people in the company.

 

[CA21JT]

I wonder how reliable that V8 was in the wrangler. Anybody know ?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I wonder how reliable that V8 was in the wrangler. Anybody know ?

Exactly as reliable as all the rest, eating lifters, cracking manifolds.

 

[Mad Jasper]

Excuse me for my ignorance on the matter, but I was under the impression that the Hurricane was a very good motor, at least ones from the past. Is that just dreaming about how good things were then or is it just the name that is a carry-over to something that no longer exists?

I don't think there is enough data to determine Hurricane I6 Turbo reliability. However, I question the reliability any modern, undersized, direct injection turbo. Stricter CAFE standards are making engines overly complex and manufacturer quality control is in the toilet. If Stellantis can't build a V6 without design flaws, I sure as hell don't trust them to build a twin-turbo I6.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

And yet the turbo 2.0 4 is doing quite well. A lot of them out there doing just fine.

 

[AmosMoses]

And yet the turbo 2.0 4 is doing quite well. A lot of them out there doing just fine.

And yet none of us asked for a 4 cylinder for our 6000 pound trucks.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

And yet none of us asked for a 4 cylinder for our 6000 pound trucks.

Where do you get 6,000 pounds?
Try closer to 5,000.

And no, none of us asked for one, but it's a given that it works well in OTHER Jeeps. That was the point being made. Not that we want one in a JT.
It was stated that DI and turbo mean trouble. I countered that - it's successful in other models (but never hinted at it for our JT. That would be not a great thing.

Taking my comments out of context........

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

My predictions:

2026 - The end of the Pentastarch 3.6 in the Jeep JL/JT line. Engine line up will be:

Base 2.0 / 4xe
Base 5.7
Upcharge 6.4

Starting prices will be at under 60K for the 5.7 with a 8K upcharge for the 392. Options and YMMV.

Mark this post for future reference lol.

Good guess.

I think the 5.7 it's too outdated.

My take on it....

Base will be the 3.6 Pentastar.

Upgrade is 3.0 Turbo Hurricane.

Hardcore & wealtly can order the 6.4. (Which is less power and torque of the Hurricane... but it is a V8 N/A).

The electric stuff I left out. 4XE may be in there but I could care less.

 

[AmosMoses]

Where do you get 6,000 pounds?
Try closer to 5,000.

And no, none of us asked for one, but it's a given that it works well in OTHER Jeeps. That was the point being made. Not that we want one in a JT.
It was stated that DI and turbo mean trouble. I countered that - it's successful in other models (but never hinted at it for our JT. That would be not a great thing.

Taking my comments out of context........

Your right 5000 lbs.

Mad jaspers point was, jeep is doing a poor job with a motor thats been around over a decade, the pentastar, with quality control and stocking replacement parts for often low mileage motors. They are not building our confidence with regard to investing in a newer more complex powerplant like the hurricane.

I know someone that recently filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy because they bought a used Silverado, 2 or 3 years old. One of the lifters went bad and it was just out of warranty at 74000 miles. He was still paying on the truck and could not afford to fix it so now we pay for it. He replaced it with a used Chrysler 300, just over 100k miles. It developed the tick and is in the shop. He only put about 5k miles on it.

These motors are trying to do too much, made by incompetent people, hired by greedy people and regulated by people that most likely have never done any real honest work in their entire lives. Putting a 4 cylinder in a 5000 pound truck is asinine. Jeep, Toyota, gm, can keep their thumb hole stock truck engines.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Your right 5000 lbs.

Mad jaspers point was, jeep is doing a poor job with a motor thats been around over a decade, the pentastar, with quality control and stocking replacement parts for often low mileage motors. They are not building our confidence with regard to investing in a newer more complex powerplant like the hurricane.

That's for sure.

 

[Hootbro]

Jeep had 2.0 Gladiator test mules in late 2018 and ran into problems with towing capacity targets they set and cooling.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Jeep ran 2.0 Gladiator test mules in late 2018 and ran into problems with towing capacity targets they set and cooling.

Fine for a Wrangler with the low towing capacity, but not fine for a "truck" towing and hauling.
It's a great mate for electric in the JLU.

 

[Hootbro]

Fine for a Wrangler with the low towing capacity, but not fine for a "truck" towing and hauling.
It's a great mate for electric in the JLU.

TFL talked about in one of their videos at launch back in 2019. At that time, Jeep was rolling out the 2.0 as a optional engine for the Wrangler and when they looked at the Gladiator with their test mules, found that towing and the increase turbo boost generated too much heat they could not cool down enough and maintain a tow capacity that was not any higher than the 3.6L base 4500 lb tow rating. The business case was not there for them to try and re-engineer the cooling system to meet the higher tow rating targets they wanted and offer a Gladiator with the 2.0 higher priced option. Made no sense to offer a 2.0 Gladiator with a lower tow rating just to offer the engine as is.

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