You are right, no one is forcing the purchase. the force is on the sale. Jeep couldnt sell the 392 without selling 4Xes, theres force. CARB states cannot put an ICE version on the lot if an electrified version exists. theres force. $13k plus in tax credits is not force but close to it.
I think 5% is more accurate for common sedans and the like but jeep JL and JT appeals to a specific crowd where there are alot of enthusiasts much like the corvette, mustang or charger. Drivers who want good gas mileage and some light offroad capability are much better off to consider a good crossover like subura model or Toyota rav4. I think jeep has mainstreamed the wrangler enough as it is. We have plenty of options nowadays with hummer ev, Tesla , rivian and international that we dont have to cripple jeep with powerplants that most of us didn't ask for and will not purchase.
I would wager closer to 50% as some sort of enthusiast or about to be one
The majority of Wrangler and Gladiator owners aren't enthusiasts, it just seems that way because you are one, and you spend your time on an enthusiast forum. You say most won't purchase one, but the 4xe makes up 50% percent of Wrangler sales now. People are buying them, and people are asking for a 4xe Gladiator.
Gee, really? We bought going in knowing what it was all about. My wife has gone 500 miles and 3 months on 9.9 gallons of gas.
They actually sell pretty well here, too. In fact, we parked next to another JLU 4xe in a lot a few months ago. The local dealer sells them and knows them very well.
Crazy low-end torque - instantly as quick as you touch that pedal. It blows a 3.6 away. Driving in the mountains compared to my JT's 3.6 - the JT had to keep shifting down and rev to make some grades - the JLU 4xe hardly ever shifted down, in fact, on most grades, it didn't downshift at all.
That's a crock of crap - spread by people who really have no idea. They are not more prone to fires than much of anything else. There was an issue, a recall sent out, and the issue as been resolved. The total number of fires was really very very small in the total number sold. The issue was Samsung batteries. it's been taken care of. No more fires.
You cant find any sizeable interest online, of people wanting a 4xe gladiator. Look at YouTube videos relating to "gladiator 4xe" and few break 10k views. Look at videos relating to "gladiator hemi" or even "gladiator hurricane" and there is much more interest. And it makes alot of sense because a hybrid or electric jeep truck with 37" tires and a winch are not a great pairing. You have guys bolting on 1500 pounds of doo-dads before they ever even load the bed down with anything. Toss in 15 degree mornings and your taxing an EV/hybrid systems even more and then multiply that scenario by rugged terrain.
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I live in Southern California. There are currently a lot more 3.6 and 2.0 Jeeps on the lots than 4xes. They can't keep the 4xes in stock for long. The state, while being very EV promoting, doesn't offer rebates anymore either. People like hybrids. More power and fuel savings
Have you ever driven one? The 4xe with 37s would be quite like a diesel with 37" tires. In fact, I'd bet you could put on 35s or 37s and not even bother with a regear. When one doesn't even downshift at a steep incline, it has more than enough torque to handle the winch weight, and big tires. Go check out the 4xe forums.
Go watch some videos of the JLU 4xe out in the trails......... No revving to get over anything.
The 4xe makes more power and torque than the 3.6, as much torque as the 392. Those videos have more views because of the outspoken enthusiast market. But normal folks don't anticipate vehicle launches. They shop what's on the market. A 4xe Gladiator would be the first PHEV midsize, make more power and torque than current powertrains, likely be cheaper than a 392 and offer fuel savings. To Joe Shmo, that's an attractive package.You cant find any sizeable interest online, of people wanting a 4xe gladiator. Look at YouTube videos relating to "gladiator 4xe" and few break 10k views. Look at videos relating to "gladiator hemi" or even "gladiator hurricane" and there is much more interest. And it makes alot of sense because a hybrid or electric jeep truck with 37" tires and a winch are not a great pairing. You have guys bolting on 1500 pounds of doo-dads before they ever even load the bed down with anything. Toss in 15 degree mornings and your taxing an EV/hybrid systems even more and then multiply that scenario by rugged terrain.
Like I said, Toyota rav 4 hybrid makes alot more sense for your "use case" (so cringey
Its not a knee jerk reaction. I dont hate EVs but Iam not going to pretend like jeep evs are popular or highly desirable.
In what world is 50% of sales not a popular vehicle?
Data bears out that the PHEVs are popular. Half of Wrangler sales. That would make it more popular than the 3.6L, 2.0L and 392.
There aren’t many EV Jeeps on the road in Toledo or Michigan where we have a high number of Jeeps. For whatever reason.
Where are you getting your 50% figure from? Their Q1 stats show the 4xe is 26% of total Wrangler sales.
It has been about 50............. likely down now because of loss of push by the government or the fear mongers out there telling people not to park them in a garage because they catch fire (like that idiot dealer mentioned earlier - what a dope)
