4xe Gladiator Hybrid (PHEV) Confirmed by Jeep CEO for 2025! ⚡️

[Geoarch]

My experience has been the opposite and I've both towed and off roaded my '24 4xe heavily. I towed 5000lbs over a thousand miles in the middle of July during last summers heat wave. It did great but you could not pin it to the floor and expect it to stay cool, unlike the v6. The electric never cut power and it towed markedly better than the v6. Like night and day better. That's why I want a JT version. Likely those that had issues were not starting with a charged battery and running esave mode. That is essential to keeping power. I made sure I started with 20% battery or more and it never ran to zero, even in the biggest hills. Lowest it got was 4% going up the mass tpk which did a 200' to 1700' elevation change in one straight shot, and it charged back to to 20% on the downhill. I had to slow to 55mph to keep the temps under 240 in that climb, that was the only limitation.

I've had no recall for battery and range is still 22 miles. I got 9-10mpg towing which is exactly what I got in my v6 gladiator. Not towing it gets 1-2mpg better than the '18 jlur I had and has 80hp more and 200lbs ft torque more. I can also do 2/3 of my daily commute on battery power alone. A JT with the new zf power train would be absolutely killer. But I have zero faith in stellantis to deliver right now.

It seems that those of us who have a 4XE or have driven them have a positive experience, those that have not generally have a negative view. We rented a 4XE Wrangler and drove it on and off road and I was impressed. Whether I can afford a new 4XE JTR in the coming economy is another story, but I will if I can. It's also not clear to me if they will still offer that JT with ICE. It would be smart so that they would catch more than one segment of the market.

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[ShadowsPapa]

new Gladiator (JT) 4xe models will be equipped with ZF’s new 8HP80PH plug-in hybrid (PHEV) 8-speed automatic transmission.
It's a lot more integrated, more controls built-in, less wiring.

The 8HP80PH transmission is capable of a peak power output of 215 horsepower (160 kW) and 332 lb-ft (450 N•m) of torque from its electric motor.
That is a huge improvement over the 134 horsepower (100 kW) and 181 lb-ft (245 N•m) from the current 8HP75PH unit.

It should also do about 30 miles all electric in the JLU compared to the current 25 or so the JLU does now with the 8HP75HP

 

[Gladiator 4xe]

new Gladiator (JT) 4xe models will be equipped with ZF’s new 8HP80PH plug-in hybrid (PHEV) 8-speed automatic transmission.
It's a lot more integrated, more controls built-in, less wiring.

The 8HP80PH transmission is capable of a peak power output of 215 horsepower (160 kW) and 332 lb-ft (450 N•m) of torque from its electric motor.
That is a huge improvement over the 134 horsepower (100 kW) and 181 lb-ft (245 N•m) from the current 8HP75PH unit.

It should also do about 30 miles all electric in the JLU compared to the current 25 or so the JLU does now with the 8HP75HP

EDIT: I found this rumor/report in autoevolution and mopar insiders. While the talk of the upgraded transmission and shunt pump is great, and I'd love those upgrades, I really hope that the release of a JT 4XE isn't going to be further delayed until 2026....that would be kind of ridiculous and a bummer. I guess time will tell.

This is an interesting update and welcomed news assuming it's true. Where did you get this information from?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

EDIT: I found this rumor/report in autoevolution and mopar insiders. While the talk of the upgraded transmission and shunt pump is great, and I'd love those upgrades, I really hope that the release of a JT 4XE isn't going to be further delayed until 2026....that would be kind of ridiculous and a bummer. I guess time will tell.

This is an interesting update and welcomed news assuming it's true. Where did you get this information from?

I had a thing on my phone when I opened the browser - news bits, [Banned Site]. Some of what I posted was copy and paste.

This MAY be the link -
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[sunrise089]

@steelponycowboy can you link me to the reliability article you’ve posted an excerpt from a few times? I may have missed the link in an earlier post, so apologies. I’d like to try to look more closely at a few of the claims made.

@ShadowsPapa I think the new ‘transmission’ (which really seems more like an integrated EV drive unit) will bring several benefits, but the range increase is, imho, very speculative. The article suggests range increases but not in a Jeep specific context, at least to me recollection, so it could simply refer to the powertrain being placed in a smaller, lighter vehicle.

General comment: between people with a political angle, people who hate on change, and just people being generally misinformed, it’s tough for me to view EV/PHEV criticism without a big grain of salt. And I say that as someone who think the EV transition was pushed at far too fast a pace and who has driven a 4xe and been somewhat disappointed by both its performance and its refinement. These vehicles are selling pretty well. They seen popular and well-liked. Getting better in-town efficiency while gaining more performance is the platonic ideal of an automotive improvement. Again I don’t own one and I have my criticisms, but some of the commentary here and elsewhere leans heavily towards FUD versus real analysis.

 

[Bobzdar]

@steelponycowboy can you link me to the reliability article you’ve posted an excerpt from a few times? I may have missed the link in an earlier post, so apologies. I’d like to try to look more closely at a few of the claims made.

@ShadowsPapa I think the new ‘transmission’ (which really seems more like an integrated EV drive unit) will bring several benefits, but the range increase is, imho, very speculative. The article suggests range increases but not in a Jeep specific context, at least to me recollection, so it could simply refer to the powertrain being placed in a smaller, lighter vehicle.

General comment: between people with a political angle, people who hate on change, and just people being generally misinformed, it’s tough for me to view EV/PHEV criticism without a big grain of salt. And I say that as someone who think the EV transition was pushed at far too fast a pace and who has driven a 4xe and been somewhat disappointed by both its performance and its refinement. These vehicles are selling pretty well. They seen popular and well-liked. Getting better in-town efficiency while gaining more performance is the platonic ideal of an automotive improvement. Again I don’t own one and I have my criticisms, but some of the commentary here and elsewhere leans heavily towards FUD versus real analysis.

What year 4xe did you drive? I have a '24 and can't imagine not being impressed with the performance if you're comparing to any other wrangler/gladiator than the 392. It's also pretty refined except for the awful engine note, which is the same for any 2.0t wrangler, but you get the benefit of not having to hear it all the time in the 4xe.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

@ShadowsPapa I think the new ‘transmission’ (which really seems more like an integrated EV drive unit) will bring several benefits, but the range increase is, imho, very speculative. The article suggests range increases but not in a Jeep specific context, at least to me recollection, so it could simply refer to the powertrain being placed in a smaller, lighter vehicle.

The context was fully Jeep as that is what it was referring to - Jeeps. Not the transmission generically.
It was as it applies to Jeep JLU and Gladiator. We have a JLU 4xe and all numbers all related to that when we bought it - they said 25 and we can get - or I should say my WIFE can get - 25-27 out of it in decent weather.
All info was as it relates to use in the Jeep vehicles.
one can also figure that since it's so much more efficient than the 75, better motor, controls and so on, that will gain and since the 75 can do 25-27 it makes total sense that you can get 30 out of a far more efficient version. The windings and other parts are much improved.

Autoevolution also has similar information - remember, batteries will be different, as well as the transmission. With a more powerful and efficient motor, Think of it -horsepower to move an object down the road...........

 

[ShadowsPapa]

What year 4xe did you drive? I have a '24 and can't imagine not being impressed with the performance if you're comparing to any other wrangler/gladiator than the 392. It's also pretty refined except for the awful engine note, which is the same for any 2.0t wrangler, but you get the benefit of not having to hear it all the time in the 4xe.

We've had ours, or I should say my wife has had HER 4xe since January 2023, so over 2 years and I'm still bloody impressed by it. We took it to town and back 2 days ago - all on battery and even had a mile or two to spare. That trip used no gas at all. It's quite and smooth and moves swiftly when you want it to. It's like having a small V8 under the hood - now if it only sounded like one when the engine kicked in LOL

 

[Bobzdar]

Dealer sent me their usual 'do you want to trade yours ('24 4xe Rubicon x) in for a new one' email and I replied that sure, I'd trade it in for a 4xe gladiator. They replied that orders would open in summer or fall and they'd let me know when they could order one. So we'll see....

 

[MudderNuker]

Well, until they release the 4Xe specs, it is a guessing game as far as towing capacity. I imagine heat management will be an issue. The other issue I see, not necessarily related to the truck performance is the resale value. I've seen 4xe Grand Cherokees on Carvana and Carmax and their resale value is terrible. For example a new GC 4xe starts at $60k and Carvana has a '24 4xe Anniversary Edition for $43,000 with 9k miles. Almost 28% depreciation in about a year. Also, Carvana sells expensive. Others are below $30k for a '23 model. This gives me the impression that it won't be any different on the Gladiator. I think it is a good powertrain but people are just reluctant to take the leap. We are considering getting rid of our annoying '22 VW Tiguan (wife's car) for a Grand Cherokee which is what we traded in for the Tiguan. Gas mileage in the Tiguan is great and it is a confortable cruiser but damn, this thing is annoyingly loud with the warning chimes. To the point that I hate it.

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

With it already being April and no official word I imagine the best case would be a July-September launch but being labeled as a 2026 model.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Again, it was said "in 2025" - not a 2025 model year. It's slated to be a 2026 from what I read so far. It will feature a new ZF transmission with a new technology electric drive motor that will produce more power and torque, but less heat (to address the comments on heating)
Heating likely won't be an issue. I suspect they are slipping into this over time - the 2024 grill, the upcoming ZF transmission/drive motor with different technology and more integration and so on.

They can't really reduce payload and towing and still keep the bragging rights about "best in class"............ but time will tell as that's been my concern due to the weight of the batteries.

 

[Bobzdar]

Well, until they release the 4Xe specs, it is a guessing game as far as towing capacity. I imagine heat management will be an issue. The other issue I see, not necessarily related to the truck performance is the resale value. I've seen 4xe Grand Cherokees on Carvana and Carmax and their resale value is terrible. For example a new GC 4xe starts at $60k and Carvana has a '24 4xe Anniversary Edition for $43,000 with 9k miles. Almost 28% depreciation in about a year. Also, Carvana sells expensive. Others are below $30k for a '23 model. This gives me the impression that it won't be any different on the Gladiator. I think it is a good powertrain but people are just reluctant to take the leap. We are considering getting rid of our annoying '22 VW Tiguan (wife's car) for a Grand Cherokee which is what we traded in for the Tiguan. Gas mileage in the Tiguan is great and it is a confortable cruiser but damn, this thing is annoyingly loud with the warning chimes. To the point that I hate it.

That's pretty much the exact same depreciation as a non 4xe GC....

 

[MudderNuker]

That's pretty much the exact same depreciation as a non 4xe GC....

Non 4xe models have 4-5% less depreciation. 5% of $50k is $2,500 more at resale. I guess you make that up with fuel savings on 4xe.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Non 4xe models have 4-5% less depreciation. 5% of $50k is $2,500 more at resale. I guess you make that up with fuel savings on 4xe.

I suspect a big part of that is the more limited market - you have a smaller subset of buyers who would be interested.
Right now it takes a specific type of buyer with specific wants/needs for even a hybrid. That will change as they become more popular (and they improve in other areas)
I'd not be surprised (this is a guess, so it could be very wrong) to see that the drop levels off as time goes by and while others keep dropping, the curves will be very different over time.
Part of it is that - like my son found out - the technology, ranges and abilities are changing extremely fast. He bought a superior 2025 EV for less than his 2022 EV of the same make and model cost him - and the new one has better range and more features. That's likely part of what's holding the used EV and PHEV market down.

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