4xe Gladiator Hybrid (PHEV) Confirmed by Jeep CEO for 2025! ⚡️

[Alc]

My experience has been the opposite and I've both towed and off roaded my '24 4xe heavily. I towed 5000lbs over a thousand miles

I thought the wrangler 4xe was limited to 3500lbs for towing…

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[steelponycowboy]

I thought the wrangler 4xe was limited to 3500lbs for towing…

You are correct BUT I read the 2024 was increased to 5000 due to new rear axle. When I looked up 4Xe toe package it said 3500. I'm sure the 4xyl turbo isn't up to towing 5000

 

[wadewolf]

I would just like a diesel option again.

 

[steelponycowboy]

I would just like a diesel option again.

Never going to see that ever. Jeep has had so many warranty issues and parts issues with the diesel, that is why they no longer offer it again.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Never going to see that ever. Jeep has had so many warranty issues and parts issues with the diesel, that is why they no longer offer it again.

Other than the fuel pump which was only like a 6% failure rate, what are all these issues the diesel has?

 

[steelponycowboy]

Other than the fuel pump which was only like a 6% failure rate, what are all these issues the diesel has?

Let me list the 300+ days mine has spent in the shop. DPF four times, last time was the longest wait for parts 5 months, turbo twice, 2 weeks+ each time, wiring harness twice 3 weeks in shop, sensors, 2 weeks in shop each and that is just engine. Transmission can't handle often towing of only 2500lbs 4 weeks in shop, then there is axle seals, rear diff, more electrical issues, speakers on premium sound went bad, power steering pump, proximity alarm system, rear camera, electric sway bar disco 4 times replaced. Then the warranty denials costing me over $10K.

Look below at Jeeps track record since the JL and JT came out, it's not good. Sure, some people have no issues but too many have major issues. It is common knowledge that Jeeps QC record has taken a dump beginning in 2018 and it gets worse. Why do you think the Gladiator sold over 90,000 units in year one then steadily declined year after year and now they will produce 30,000 for 2025 to avoid having to sell at a loss at year end like they've had to do for the last 3 years.

If I hadn't owned 36 trouble free Jeeps with as many as 300K miles on them before I bought my Gladiator, I would never buy another Jeep and there are many new owners that already made that decision over the past several years.

Here are the facts reported this week:


1. Jeep: Loyalty vs. Reliability – A Tough Choice for Buyers© Image: Wikipedia
Jeep owners stay loyal despite more repair guides than adventure stories appearing in owner forums. These American icons have ranked in the bottom five for reliability for seven years straight and have the most lemon law claims in the industry. Wranglers and Gladiators earn “Trail Rated” badges by conquering tough terrain, but suffer from leaking roofs, dead electronics, and death wobble – a violent shaking at highway speeds affecting 78% of high-mileage Jeeps. The 4×4 systems with 4:1 low gears work great off-road, but 20% of owners face $3,000 differential repairs with parts often backordered for 3 months. Jeeps have 30% more problems than average vehicles and lose 51% of their value after five years – the worst in the industry. Yet somehow 73% of owners buy another Jeep. The Jeep lifestyle seems worth the headache to many, though “headache” means 3.4 unexpected repair visits yearly and $8,500 in surprise costs over five years.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Let me list the 300+ days mine has spent in the shop. DPF four times, last time was the longest wait for parts 5 months, turbo twice, 2 weeks+ each time, wiring harness twice 3 weeks in shop, sensors, 2 weeks in shop each and that is just engine. Transmission can't handle often towing of only 2500lbs 4 weeks in shop, then there is axle seals, rear diff, more electrical issues, speakers on premium sound went bad, power steering pump, proximity alarm system, rear camera, electric sway bar disco 4 times replaced. Then the warranty denials costing me over $10K.

My bad, I thought you were saying all diesels have a ton of issues. Didn't realize you were just talking about yours.

 

[Alc]

completely off topic but my diesel has been flawless. I’m still trying to figure out how Jeep, on their webpage, specs for the 4xe states 3500….I can only imagine how pissed I’d be when something went and they denied my warranty claim after towing 5000lbs despite the new axle.

 

[Geoarch]

Electrification across the product lines is a result of EPA mandates. It has little, if any, correlation to demographics, market research, and customer demand.

There’s no federal mandate for “electrification” only increase in CAFE standards, and $3500 back off taxes for PHEVs.

 

[Geoarch]

i can't remember teh last time i got even close to 19mpg......of yeah.....NEVER!! I'd run down the street neked screaming EUREKA!!

I know how you feel. I grew up in Spring Valley. Poway was tiny then.

 

[Geoarch]

Winter months - roughly 6 months of the year, we can go 25 miles for $1.19
Summer months with higher rates, we can go 25 miles for $1.79
That's to town and back, if we go farther in, it's there and almost all the way back.
500 miles, 3 months, 10 gallons of gas.



We had hybrids when I worked for the state. Honda and Toyota. Don't tell me they don't increase efficiency or range. I could drive all over this state with a Prius.
The Jeep is a poor thing to compare, though, because those aren't exactly mpg poster boys. It's hard to get more mpg out of a brick, but then I can't say 20-21 out of a JLU Rubicon 4xe is bad - will the gas JLUs get that? And figure the first 25 miles of any trip is really cheap, the fact that most people - even truck owners around here - only drove 30-50 miles a day means a tank of fuel will last a very long time - like it did us. I finally had to put gas in ours because after 3 months it went into FORM - old gas! I checked my logs - 500 miles on 10 gallons of gas. Most trips under 50 miles.
If we weren't retired, a Jeep 4xe would be the perfect commuting vehicle for us! We'd go a long time without putting gas in it.
Most owners of pickups around here aren't towing across the country. They are going to work, going to the grocery store, they are used like cars.

We have a RAV4 Prime PHEV and with rooftop solar our 50+ miles on a charge is zip. We fill the tank every couple of months. I’ll get a JT 4XE after they’ve been out a year or so.

 

[AstroZombie]

I know how you feel. I grew up in Spring Valley. Poway was tiny then.

Still pretty tiny comparatively. A better Buzz coffee just opened this morning though!

 

[Geoarch]

Still pretty tiny comparatively. A better Buzz coffee just opened this morning though!

Did you know that "Poway" is a Kumeyaay word for arrowpoint?

 

[Bobzdar]

I thought the wrangler 4xe was limited to 3500lbs for towing…

It is, I went over the rating knowing the axles, hitch etc were rated for 5k but cooling was the limitation.

 

[Geoarch]

The Wrangler hybrid is NOT a 3.6, it's a 2.0 4 cylinder turbo.

Having said that, the 4Xe Gladiator is on indefinite hold. Because of the poor sales of Gladiators, which have decreased about 25% every year since they were introduced and because the last few years they have way overproduced the model resulting in many thousands of unsold units. Jeep is cutting 2025 production by as much as 10,000 units to avoid high year end inventories and steep discounts. The plan is to keep the inventory low and prices high in 2025. As a result, they have laid off 1,100+ employees from the JT production line.

While it probably wouldn't be to difficult to make a 4Xe Gladiator, after all it's only the front end of the Wrangler which is the same as the JT to the rear seating area. I'm guessing its the question of will it sell and if it is like the JL, the max tow capacity 4Xe of 3500lbs on the 2024s compared to the 5000lbs on the 2024 3.6 JL. I can only imagine that if the max tow capacity and cargo capacity is downgraded with a JT 4Xe as with the JL, who would buy them and that is Jeeps problem in figuring it out. Maybe it will happen, maybe not but Jeep isn't looking to continue to lose money on JT sales.

In a statement last year Jeep said that just about everyone that wanted a Gladiator bought one already, their excuse for the lack of sales year after year. They also noted that pricing difference over the Tacoma ($10,000 more or less) is hurting Gladiator sales to people who don't understand it's a Jeep thing.

The word has it at Stellantis that 2026 is the last year of the Gladiator so I am not sure if they are going to invest any more money into creating more power plants. You didn't get the 392 although there were many requests. I think the cooling issues with the 392 in the Wrangler with lower tow capacity than the 3.6 JL would only have been multiplied in the JT. They learned their lesson with the diesel - high warranty costs along with poor parts availability. poor sales and which sources have told me was the worst decision they had made in a while.

Gladiator is said to be replaced by the new Ram Dakota with a 2026 debut, a completely engineered mid sized truck from the ground up with new, high power motors according to my source at RAM.

I guess it is what it is. Jeep Truck models don't last more than 5 or 6 years reminding me of the Scrambler and the Comanche and Dodge/Ram killing the J-Trucks because they competed for sales of the corporate trucks.

If 2025 is the last year, why would they produce a new 4XE Gladiator, just to remove it the following year? I realize Stellantis continues to make poor decisions, but that would be idiotic fiscally.

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