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To add... As of a few weeks ago, Stellantis has stopped production of the full electric Charger.
No they haven't, they're doing 125 builds per shift in Windsor right now.
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The car very much relied on the gas motor at 15% charge or less.
Since these don't tell the true charge on the display (anywhere), where are you seeing the 15% or is that your math figuring the battery is down to the "<1%" mark on the display?
 

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Since these don't tell the true charge on the display (anywhere), where are you seeing the 15% or is that your math figuring the battery is down to the "<1%" mark on the display?
I was going off of whatever was on the dash.
 

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Being the only one of the big 3 that can't seem to bring an EV pickup to market doesn't bode well in my opinon. Being last was already looking bad, but scrapping it altogether shows an inability to keep up with modern tech. Rivian, tesla, Ford and Chevy have all proved it's not only doable but works well for a lot of truck owners. Nobody is saying scrap all ICE trucks, some people need hd trucks with 15k+ pound towing capacity. Some people primarily road trip their trucks and don't want EVs. The idea that a $7500 tax credit eliminates the viability of trucks pushing 6 figures plus it's just dumb.
Ford struggled as well..... and IMO, the biggest mistake they make is trying to convert instead of designing from the ground up. Tesla doesn't even build cars the "normal way". Toyota bought at least one and had their engineers take it apart to "see how they did it" as even Toyota was having problems.
Tesla, Rivian - designed and built from the ground up to be EV, not a conversion. there was nothing holding them back in any place at all. Start over as if the truck or car didn't even exist. (sorry, Rivian fans - I think the front is ugly as sin and like my grandson designed it, but - other than that, credit where credit is due - it's a success, it works)

The "big three" (really the big 2 and a half) all tried to take existing stuff and make it work electric.
Some took a step back and re-thought that method.
 

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I was going off of whatever was on the dash.
Then it was truly broken. We drove ours through mountain states at <1% on the display, good power, almost no downshifting.
Yes, there have been cases of batteries losing capacity and causing problems - and I bet that's one of them.

EV owners are the most sensitive group around.:CWL:
Not really, I don't own an EV, we have a PHEV, and we just hate the shit - lies, and bad info out there.
If it was a logical, factual debate, it would be different, but the stuff out there is all the fringes freaking out and spreading crap.
At least debate on real things - range, weight, costs and so on.
 

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Then it was truly broken. We drove ours through mountain states at <1% on the display, good power, almost no downshifting.
Yes, there have been cases of batteries losing capacity and causing problems - and I bet that's one of them.



Not really, I don't own an EV, we have a PHEV, and we just hate the shit - lies, and bad info out there.
If it was a logical, factual debate, it would be different, but the stuff out there is all the fringes freaking out and spreading crap.
At least debate on real things - range, weight, costs and so on.
"Not really" ok PHEV LOL. I changed it for ya.
 

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Some people live to bash that which they don't understand - and don't care to. Helps explain a lot of the problems in the world when lies and half-truths are spread, and there's no debate on facts, just hate of something.
 

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"Not really" ok PHEV LOL. I changed it for ya.
You prove all points. Your politics are showing in multiple comments. You don't even know anything about which you hate.
 

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You prove all points. Your politics are showing in multiple comments. You don't even know anything about which you hate.
I dont hate anyone, what are my politics anyways, please tell me. 13 posts and you have it all figured out? Sensitive bunch like I said before.
 
 







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