Towing Capacity of 2024 Gladiator Willys

[Zachanadandy]

If they looked it up, it would likely come up 4,000 as that's what most web sites state.
Jeep really screwed up in this area - even the specs section on the capabilities part of Jeep.com is screwed up.

If I were remotely worried about getting weighed I'd carry a copy of the brochure. Right there in bold tow up to 7,700lbs when properly equipped. The hitch and brake controller look like the only proper equipment the dot would give two shits about. They don't care about the alternator or cooling fan in the slightest.

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[ShadowsPapa]

If I were remotely worried about getting weighed I'd carry a copy of the brochure. Right there in bold tow up to 7,700lbs when properly equipped. The hitch and brake controller look like the only proper equipment the dot would give two shits about. They don't care about the alternator or cooling fan in the slightest.

LOL - that's a good one (and I mean that in a good way)
Nailed it.

 

[Labswine]

If I were remotely worried about getting weighed I'd carry a copy of the brochure. Right there in bold tow up to 7,700lbs when properly equipped. The hitch and brake controller look like the only proper equipment the dot would give two shits about. They don't care about the alternator or cooling fan in the slightest.

The alternator and cooling fan's greater capacity are more for YOUR protection than anything.

The higher capacity cooling fan helps keep engine temps more under control, especially on hot days. I have towed when it was 100+ degrees out, my AC going, and not seen over 225 degrees engine temp (sometimes just sitting in traffic and not really moving), and the trans and oil temps were also in safe zones. Of course, once moving, temps do drop some so...

The higher capacity alternator gives the extra juice needed for the cooling fan as well as the extra lights, brakes (from the brake controller), keeping the trailer's battery charged, running any electrical stuff in your trailer, like your fridge and stuff. I guess the regular alternator could handle all that stuff but, IMHO, that could send it to an early grave leaving you stranded on the side of the road.

 

[Zachanadandy]

The alternator and cooling fan's greater capacity are more for YOUR protection than anything.

The higher capacity cooling fan helps keep engine temps more under control, especially on hot days. I have towed when it was 100+ degrees out, my AC going, and not seen over 225 degrees engine temp (sometimes just sitting in traffic and not really moving), and the trans and oil temps were also in safe zones. Of course, once moving, temps do drop some so...

The higher capacity alternator gives the extra juice needed for the cooling fan as well as the extra lights, brakes (from the brake controller), keeping the trailer's battery charged, running any electrical stuff in your trailer, like your fridge and stuff. I guess the regular alternator could handle all that stuff but, IMHO, that could send it to an early grave leaving you stranded on the side of the road.

Absolutely, but not everyone is towing an rv trailer. A standard utility, enclosed trailer, flat trailer etc draws almost nothing. A couple led taillights aren't overworking the standard alternator. Fortunately my mojave has all of those upgrades anyway. If your primary use is towing 7k pounds I'd opt for the max tow. My primary use is freeway speeds in the dirt so the mojave was the obvious choice. On occasion I'll hook up a 7k+ pound trailer and not worry about it for a second., despite the 6k pound factory rating.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

On occasion I'll hook up a 7k+ pound trailer and not worry about it for a second., despite the 6k pound factory rating.

Heck, Jeep isn't even sure what the Mojave can tow.............

Seems to me that they all have the larger alternator now. Makes sense as there's likely not a whole lot of cost difference to FCA vs. the cost of inventorying and contracting for 3 different alternators.

As far as lighting on trailers - yeah, LEDs are great, but I'd bet that even today, half of the trailers on the road are NOT LED trailers. Up until I got my Aluma - my car haulers all had standard lights all around. Still, not a lot of draw, and it was only lighting, not trailer battery charging.

 

[DylanM]

Open the drivers door and look at the sticker on the door frame . Mine is 7000# towing , 1200#payload. They varied by year , by model etc.. even the top speed varied from 94or 97mph-112mph.
Who honestly pulls the max all the time No one . Your not using it for a hotshot truck . Pull and load up under the rating and under you tongue weight and you should be fine.

Post up a picture of the sticker on your door frame, I'd love to see where it shows the tow rating or even the CGWR.

 

[Zachanadandy]

Post up a picture of the sticker on your door frame, I'd love to see where it shows the tow rating or even the CGWR.

Mines got axle weight ratings and nothing else. Not even the GVWR. And if you add the axle weight ratings it's 6,800lbs combined. 1 more reason nobody is ever ticketing you for numbers that are hidden somewhere in the manual.

 

[Stan H]

Post up a picture of the sticker on your door frame, I'd love to see where it shows the tow rating or even the CGWR.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Mines got axle weight ratings and nothing else. Not even the GVWR. And if you add the axle weight ratings it's 6,800lbs combined. 1 more reason nobody is ever ticketing you for numbers that are hidden somewhere in the manual.

Every one of mine has shown the GVWR.
Just not combined weight rating

 

[DylanM]

Looks just like every other JT's door jamb stickers: no tow rating or combined gross weight info. Kinda pointless to tell somebody asking about tow capacity to open their door and look at the sticker huh?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Looks just like every other JT's door jamb stickers: no tow rating or combined gross weight info. Kinda pointless to tell somebody asking about tow capacity to open their door and look at the sticker huh?

They never have shown the towing capacity. Ever.
The payload is shown ONLY because it varies with the specific combination of accessories and options. That's the one and only reason. Otherwise they could simply say "look in the book".
Tow ratings do not vary with specific factory options, payload does, thus, they print one and not the other.
Pure logic.
The confusion over such things baffles me.

 

[DylanM]

They never have shown the towing capacity. Ever.
The payload is shown ONLY because it varies with the specific combination of accessories and options. That's the one and only reason. Otherwise they could simply say "look in the book".
Tow ratings do not vary with specific factory options, payload does, thus, they print one and not the other.
Pure logic.
The confusion over such things baffles me.

No shit they don't show the tow capacity, that's the point I'm making.

Yes, I know payload varies with the specific vehicle and is why the sticker shows that stat.

Contrary to your assertion that tow rating do not vary with specific factory options, they do in fact do so. Perfect case in point is a Sport or Sport S that is not equipped with the factory tow package has a lower rated tow capacity than one that comes with the factory tow package, and that rated capacity differs yet again when equipped with the Max Tow package. Installed equipment very much so makes a difference in rated tow capacity and allowed combined gross weight from the factory, and is every bit as important as variance in payload capacity.

The reason for your confusion is apparently due to you are only thinking about your specific situation and vehicle. Yes, your Mojave only has one factory specified tow rating when equipped with a class IV receiver hitch and automatic transmission, thus having the ratings listed on the door jamb sticker doesn't seem useful to you . Not all Gladiators fall into that situation.

Logic would dictate that when a manufacturer offers a vehicle with various equipment options that have a marked impact upon the tow capacity and combined weight allowed, that it would make the most sense to clearly label each vehicle with those stats just the same as they do with payload information. Instead, Jeep has gone the route of leaving it up to the owner to sleuth out the answer to such critical questions, or much more egregiously as is the case more recently, referring them to a website that has shown itself to provide information that is inconsistent, incomplete, or outright incorrect.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

No shit they don't show the tow capacity, that's the point I'm making.

Yes, I know payload varies with the specific vehicle and is why the sticker shows that stat.

Contrary to your assertion that tow rating do not vary with specific factory options, they do in fact do so. Perfect case in point is a Sport or Sport S that is not equipped with the factory tow package has a lower rated tow capacity than one that comes with the factory tow package, and that rated capacity differs yet again when equipped with the Max Tow package. Installed equipment very much so makes a difference in rated tow capacity and allowed combined gross weight from the factory, and is every bit as important as variance in payload capacity.

The reason for your confusion is apparently due to you are only thinking about your specific situation and vehicle. Yes, your Mojave only has one factory specified tow rating when equipped with a class IV receiver hitch and automatic transmission, thus having the ratings listed on the door jamb sticker doesn't seem useful to you . Not all Gladiators fall into that situation.

Logic would dictate that when a manufacturer offers a vehicle with various equipment options that have a marked impact upon the tow capacity and combined weight allowed, that it would make the most sense to clearly label each vehicle with those stats just the same as they do with payload information. Instead, Jeep has gone the route of leaving it up to the owner to sleuth out the answer to such critical questions, or much more egregiously as is the case more recently, referring them to a website that has shown itself to provide information that is inconsistent, incomplete, or outright incorrect.

My point is why should they????!
I guess you misunderstand the relationship. Options do NOT change towing, only payload and only model differences change towing. All Rubicon have the same tow rating so why put it on a sticker!
You are talking apples and oranges. Max tow is more like a different model.

It's "when properly equipped".
You should buy based on knowledge of what you are buying! Apparently you believe Jeep owners have no clue what they are buying.
You only need to check web sites or the book. There are not many combinations of choices.
Options and accessories have a huge impact on payload and it varies with each build to some extent. Any Sport S with max tow will tow the same.
And Rubicon with a tow package will tow the same. And Sport with a tow package will tow the same. Look at the freakin' chart. It's simple. It's not simple with payload.

You buy a Sport with tow package, you know the tow rating. It's easy - either in the book or the web site. Do you struggle with that?
Name a Jeep Gladiator "model" and if it has a tow package, what transmission it has and I'll tell you the tow rating. No sticker needed.

• You buy a Jeep you don't need a door sticker to tell you the tow rating of YOUR Jeep.
• You buy a Jeep you DO need a door sticker to tell you the payload of YOUR Jeep.

It's quite simple- no need to make it so complicated!


LOL - I'm not the one confused here! I'm being logical and you are trying to make it very complicated when it isn't.
Name me a Gladiator model, transmission and if it has a tow package, I'll tell you the tow rating.
I can't tell you the payload rating of YOUR Jeep.

No sleuthing to it - and if you buy without looking at the chart or in the book, that is on YOU.
Heck, most of the time I don't even need to look it up, but if I do, it's a 2 minute thing.
Wow. Sleuthing? LOL
Do we consider JT buyers to be stupid and uninformed - or do they know what they need to tow, and the tow ratings before buying?

 

[Stan H]

Every one of mine has shown the GVWR.
Just not combined weight rating

Yep mine says 6250# its right there in the picture. Took it this morning

 

[DylanM]

Is the factory tow package not an option? Last I checked, it very much was. Likewise Max Tow is an option; it is a package that is optional on certain trims, it's not a different model or trim. Ergo, by definition options do in fact affect tow rating. Just because you have a difference in opinion as to what constitutes an option, trim, or model does not alter reality, and is flawed logic.

Checking online for information is a joke as again, the information to be found is often inconsistent, incomplete, or outright wrong. Checking the book is only useful when said book actually exists or actually contains the information: again, case in point with newer Jeeps that do not include a printed manual, nor does the manual actually contain the pertinent information, merely a reference to check a website... and now we're right back at the unreliable online information problem once again. Even you yourself have acknowledged that the specs listed on Jeep's website are screwed up, or are you going to ignore that now that it might be inconvenient to your argument?

Regarding "when properly equipped", it's quite common to see people jump on the forums and ask precisely what the tow capacity is of the vehicle they just bought, both for new and used, so obviously it is an issue that happens often enough to prove that being uninformed is a problem. This doesn't imply nor prove that they're clueless or stupid, no, I think stretching things that far is being unnecessarily rude or simply trying to set up a strawman argument. Do you not understand that not everybody buys new? Do you struggle to comprehend that not everybody does in-depth research of a vehicle before buying it? Do you lack the critical thinking skills needed to grasp the concept that not all used vehicles come with the owner's manual tucked neatly in the glove box? Are you really so hardheaded and naive as to not understand how the simple inclusion of an extra line printed on the door jamb sticker to show what the tow rating of a vehicle is as it was built at the factory couldn't possibly be helpful or useful to somebody other than yourself?

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