Fox Rubicon Shocks VS Stock

[Benbean66]

It took a lot of the road feel out of the ride on mine. I would suggest installing rubicon front springs as well. I have a 2.5" ready lift sst lift kit installed on mine and done the Rubicon take off springs in the front and Rubicon take off shocks front and rear and mine rides better than it did stock. Also installed a fox steering stabilizer just to match the fox rubicon shocks. I love how mine rides. It left a 1/4 inch of rake front to rear on my Max Tow which is where I wanted to be for towing purposes. This setup and a set of 35's or 37's seems like a perfect combo to me.

That's what I'm looking to do with my Max Tow Sport... Rubi take-off shocks and front springs/arms. I have 35's now and they don't rub at all, I just want a tad more clearance in the front. I check the member sale page all the time for a set.

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[ShadowsPapa]

You have to understand there's no such thing as "Rubicon springs" as much as you getting a pair that's the same as the pair the last guy got. Each level of JT has a RANGE of springs installed.
You may get springs from a Rubicon that are stiffer than the springs I got from a Rubicon - DEPENDING on the JT Rubicon that came off of.
Each trim level has a range of springs it may get. Not all Rubicon springs will be the same, not all Sport S max tow springs will be the same.
Same for the Sport S max tow - your front springs may be stiffer, or less stiff, than what another Sport S max tow has.

Shocks matched to springs? Never heard of that..... and I've been a mechanic for over 45 years, installed hundreds of shocks. Rubicon gets "premium" shocks while the others get pretty much standard like installed on almost any other similar Jeep.
For me, the Overland shocks gave too soft a ride. I wanted a firmer ride, so put on Fox shock take-offs from a Rubicon.
I am running max tow rear springs and Rubicon front springs and Rubicon shocks all around. Ride and handling are very good, less "bouncy" More road feel, you feel bumps a bit more, but it's a solid ride.
Shocks dampen the spring oscillations, slow the rise and fall of the suspension. That's pretty much it. They don't hold a vehicle up. The dampening action can be stronger or weaker, but they aren't "tuned" - although you can get adjustable shocks that you can change the metering inside.

That's what I'm looking to do with my Max Tow Sport... Rubi take-off shocks and front springs/arms. I have 35's now and they don't rub at all, I just want a tad more clearance in the front. I check the member sale page all the time for a set.

Don't bother with the arms! Those parts are IDENTICAL on Sport, Sport S, Overland and Rubicon - not a lick of difference in the track bar or control arms. Why would there be?
Rubicon front springs get some people about 3/4" lift, others a tad more.
IT DEPENDS - on the SPECIFIC springs YOUR sport has and the SPECIFIC SPRINGS that were on the Rubicon donor.
If you have stiffer Sport S springs and the Rubicon has the lighter Rubicon springs, you won't get as much lift.

 

[Mouse]

I come here just to say that "fox rubicon" shocks ARE "stock" shocks.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

I come here just to say that "fox rubicon" shocks ARE "stock" shocks.

But better than Max Tow, and the other shocks available on other models.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I come here just to say that "fox rubicon" shocks ARE "stock" shocks.

LOL - good point, they sure are.
They are a bit more stout, "stiffer" metering than those on, say, Overland, which will have the "softest" feel to them for ride comfort.
If you want something for ultimate suspension travel - get those with remote reservoir.........or something adjustable for tuning your ride.

 

[93civej1]

It took a lot of the road feel out of the ride on mine. I would suggest installing rubicon front springs as well. I have a 2.5" ready lift sst lift kit installed on mine and done the Rubicon take off springs in the front and Rubicon take off shocks front and rear and mine rides better than it did stock. Also installed a fox steering stabilizer just to match the fox rubicon shocks. I love how mine rides. It left a 1/4 inch of rake front to rear on my Max Tow which is where I wanted to be for towing purposes. This setup and a set of 35's or 37's seems like a perfect combo to me.

Why did you only do the fronts and not the rear springs as well? I am researching doing this type of upgrade on my Sport S.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Why did you only do the fronts and not the rear springs as well? I am researching doing this type of upgrade on my Sport S.

Likely to level it a bit, take a small amount of the rake out.
You do not want Rubicon rear springs under a Sport S max tow - you will lose capacity as it will squat a lot easier and not handle payloads as well. In other words, your butt will sag if you load it down.
Max tow Sport S rear springs are progressive springs to give a decent ride without payload and not sink like the Titanic when pulling a heavy trailer or throwing 1500 pounds in the rear.

I have an overland - I put Rubicon front springs under it to take a tiny bit of rake out, and put Sport S max tow rear springs under the rear to keep it from sinking into the road with a load on it. I checked mine first and putting much weight in the back meant it looked like I was hunting raccoons in the trees with my headlights high in the air.

 

[93civej1]

Likely to level it a bit, take a small amount of the rake out.
You do not want Rubicon rear springs under a Sport S max tow - you will lose capacity as it will squat a lot easier and not handle payloads as well. In other words, your butt will sag if you load it down.
Max tow Sport S rear springs are progressive springs to give a decent ride without payload and not sink like the Titanic when pulling a heavy trailer or throwing 1500 pounds in the rear.

I have an overland - I put Rubicon front springs under it to take a tiny bit of rake out, and put Sport S max tow rear springs under the rear to keep it from sinking into the road with a load on it. I checked mine first and putting much weight in the back meant it looked like I was hunting raccoons in the trees with my headlights high in the air.

Awesome thanks. I will only look for fronts then. I have Max Tow. Most I see are for all front and rear, but I ran across a set of front for like 20$ recently.

 

[NC_Overland]

Yeah, like ShadowsPapa said, my Overland drives a hell of a lot better on take off Rubicon shocks than the stock Overland shocks. It was way too floaty with the Overland shocks. It still rides great, but its a lot more controlled of a ride.

Also, to his points, don't bother with the control arms, they're identical. He's also correct on what model Overland, Rubicon, or Sport you get the springs from. Mine came off of an LE Rubicon so it had the steel front bumper, hard top, and automatic. They should be the stiffest available. I would however love to see a chart where I could put in my spring part numbers and see the spring rate vs others.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

Why did you only do the fronts and not the rear springs as well? I am researching doing this type of upgrade on my Sport S.

I got Max Tow rear springs and I have a 2.5" lift. My Max Tow rear springs are stiffer than the Rubicon ones and I didn't want to compromise my towing ability anymore than I already have. Also it leveled it out some more by just doing the front, put me at 1/4" of rake front to rear.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah, like ShadowsPapa said, my Overland drives a hell of a lot better on take off Rubicon shocks than the stock Overland shocks. It was way too floaty with the Overland shocks. It still rides great, but its a lot more controlled of a ride.

Also, to his points, don't bother with the control arms, they're identical. He's also correct on what model Overland, Rubicon, or Sport you get the springs from. Mine came off of an LE Rubicon so it had the steel front bumper, hard top, and automatic. They should be the stiffest available. I would however love to see a chart where I could put in my spring part numbers and see the spring rate vs others.

I ended up with softer Rubicon springs - I bet yours are on the higher end from mine.
Still, I'm quite happy. the ride is good, a lot better, better road feel, not so floaty like you describe.

My Overland rear springs were 439 (left) and 440 (right)
I don't recall what my front Overland originals were.

Rubicon set I bought has 449 and 450 rears
Rubicon front spring pair I bought has 339 and 340
So I have Rubicon front 339 and 340 springs under the front.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

Yeah, like ShadowsPapa said, my Overland drives a hell of a lot better on take off Rubicon shocks than the stock Overland shocks. It was way too floaty with the Overland shocks. It still rides great, but its a lot more controlled of a ride.

Also, to his points, don't bother with the control arms, they're identical. He's also correct on what model Overland, Rubicon, or Sport you get the springs from. Mine came off of an LE Rubicon so it had the steel front bumper, hard top, and automatic. They should be the stiffest available. I would however love to see a chart where I could put in my spring part numbers and see the spring rate vs others.

Mine came off a LE with steel front and rear bumpers as well. Absolutely love how mine rides and drives now. I'll more than likely keep it how it is other than maybe adding a adjustable track bar to the front

 

[BruteForce]

I've got a set of FOX2 take-offs from my JT. Selling cheap.

 

[bastage]

I liked the ride much better then stock. I installed the Rubi front coils at the same time along with a set of the Daystar 3/4" front coil spacers & that brought my Max Tow to within 1/2" of level which is what I was going for. I kept the rear Max Tow springs. It took me & my neighbor less then 2 hours total in my driveway.

 

[Jobofly]

I've got a set of FOX2 take-offs from my JT. Selling cheap.

Will you ship?

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