Door Pin Guides

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Installed some stainless door pin guides this summer to easily take the doors on and off. Should I take them off this fall and put the bolts back in for the winter?

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[Renegade]

Installed some stainless door pin guides this summer to easily take the doors on and off. Should I take them off this fall and put the bolts back in for the winter?

Most people never put nuts back on.

 

[DocMike]

What Zac said.

Most people never put nuts back on.

 

[wchevron]

Thanks. Should I put a little locktite on the pins if I'm going to keep them on permantly. They are just hand tightened on. My daughter had one fall off on her JL

 

[j.o.y.ride]

Why would you take a bolt out and replace it with a pin held on by loctite? What purpose would that serve?

 

[FloridaJT6MT]

I just purchased a set and put them on last month. No loctite. I had read about that so I just check them occasionally. None loose so far. Also, won’t be removing for winter, since there is no winter here. In fact, that’s when I’ll have the doors off the most ?

 

[be77solo]

Why would you take a bolt out and replace it with a pin held on by loctite? What purpose would that serve?

It makes reinstalling the doors much easier and less likely to scratch the paint.... I'm sure his locktite idea is to just keep the pin secure.

I have removed the bolts and installed pins, I did not use locktite. It does make reinstalling doors much simpler. I have yet to lose a pin, but I do make sure they are tight before I reinstall the doors.

 

[Gvsukids]

Why do you need the bolts? Many of us, me included, never put the bolts back on.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/door-screw-pins-keep-off.44202/

 

[j.o.y.ride]

It makes reinstalling the doors much easier and less likely to scratch the paint.... I'm sure his locktite idea is to just keep the pin secure.

I have removed the bolts and installed pins, I did not use locktite. It does make reinstalling doors much simpler. I have yet to lose a pin, but I do make sure they are tight before I reinstall the doors.

I get the reason for bolts vs pins but loctite on the pins is going to require some effort to break away and you could scratch the paint in that process. Bolt seems more controlled an extraction with less likely to cause damage than yanking a pin with loctite.

 

[eaglerugby04]

my pins have been on for 20 months or so, no issues so far. no locktite or anything. I pushed the door stoper things back into the door over a year ago and haven't ever reconnected those either. don't miss them at all

 

[dcmdon]

I would be leery of leaving them one only because they are stainless. At least if the OP lives in an area where they use salt on the road.

Whenever you have 2 dissimilar metals in contact with each other, they can cause one of the metals to rust. In this case the stainless would cause the mild steel of the hinge to rust.

A friend of mine put stainless hinges on his JK and the doors at the attachment point started to rust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion

 

[NachoRuby]

I would be leery of leaving them one only because they are stainless. At least if the OP lives in an area where they use salt on the road.

Whenever you have 2 dissimilar metals in contact with each other, they can cause one of the metals to rust. In this case the stainless would cause the mild steel of the hinge to rust.

A friend of mine put stainless hinges on his JK and the doors at the attachment point started to rust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion

The hinges are aluminum. At least I think they are. A magnet won't stick to them. The doors are aluminum too.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

IF the doors and hinges are aluminum, it won't be a problem to use small stainless fasteners. If there was a larger quantity of stainless to aluminum it could weaken the aluminum but in this case that wouldn't be the case.
Are the hinges PURE aluminum, or an alloy with magnesium, etc?
In other words, in this case, I'd not worry about it. I'm using stainless screws to attach the aluminum rails to the sides of my JT box - not concerned, it's a small amount of stainless touching a larger amount of aluminum and for "galvanic corrosion" to occur, you need moisture - like if you lived next to the ocean, etc.

 

[NachoRuby]

IF the doors and hinges are aluminum, it won't be a problem to use small stainless fasteners. If there was a larger quantity of stainless to aluminum it could weaken the aluminum but in this case that wouldn't be the case.
Are the hinges PURE aluminum, or an alloy with magnesium, etc?
In other words, in this case, I'd not worry about it. I'm using stainless screws to attach the aluminum rails to the sides of my JT box - not concerned, it's a small amount of stainless touching a larger amount of aluminum and for "galvanic corrosion" to occur, you need moisture - like if you lived next to the ocean, etc.

Not to get to deep into this topic, but the tub and frame are steel, but everything that attaches to the tub is aluminum (or aluminum/magnesium alloy). I'm sure there must be a sacrificial anode to keep the dissimilar metals from corroding (good paint helps too, of course). But what happens when that sacrificial anode has done all its sacrificing? Something has to give. I'm sure the engineers thought long and hard about it all, but it's just interesting to me, with so many vehicles using dissimilar metals now. (aluminum beds on some trucks, and aluminum hoods and roofs on many cars, for example). I haven't had any courses on this stuff since high school, so I'm hoping you or someone knows how they do it.

 

[redfish]

Ditto, and since I have a Sport my electrical plugs for the doors haven't been reconnected for months

my pins have been on for 20 months or so, no issues so far. no locktite or anything. I pushed the door stoper things back into the door over a year ago and haven't ever reconnected those either. don't miss them at all

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