Thief magnet

[Deleted member 28696]

My area of town isn't the best but so far I've had no issues with theft, knock on wood. Our next door neighbor had vehicles stolen twice recently. I think that may have to do with having an older vehicle or they feel those cars might be faster, which they are probably right. I think they might be easier to take than something new. In both cases they recovered their vehicle within hours. They probably committed a crime with that vehicle and then left it on the street afterwards. We do have surveillance which may or may not be a deterrent.

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[salvino]

Anyone else having problems with their Gladiator being a thief magnet? Had a two-man team (tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum) literally rip off my tonneau cover bending the top of the bed just to get into my mostly empty truck bed. On the bright side, glad I still have my cat converter though

I spend most of my time in the San Juan Islands of WA these days. Much of the time I leave the keys in the thruck and things in the carport next to it. When I return to the Seattle area I lock everything up and worry. Cities have always been more of a risk. But these days it’s virtually legal to break into vehicles in most big cities. “Broken Windows” Is what would improve the situation but that’s not happening anytime soon.

 

[ldavenci]

That sucks. Did more damage that necessary. At least it looks like you can bend the side rails back into place.

 

[ACAD_Cowboy]

But these days it’s virtually legal to break into vehicles in most big cities. “Broken Windows” Is what would improve the situation but that’s not happening anytime soon.

Broken Windows was not a success in NYC, it lead directly to stop and frisk which made everyone a target and every cop a fascist pig. And FWIW shit bags gonna shit bag wherever they are, cops or no cops.

 

[Gossamer]

Anyone else having problems with their Gladiator being a thief magnet? Had a two-man team (tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum) literally rip off my tonneau cover bending the top of the bed just to get into my mostly empty truck bed. On the bright side, glad I still have my cat converter though

Jesus!! Did they think they were going to find gold or something???!!!

 

[Gossamer]

Diamondback solves this

No, people not being dicks solves this....

 

[Dreaded1]

I always lock my vehicles, under the mind set of keeping honest people honest. If they break a window to get into it, that's what I have insurance for. I used to make a habit of locking my exes vechicle also. One day she asked me why I always lock her car. I told her that there had been some breakins and stolen vehicles in the neighborhood recently and I didn't want her car stolen or broken into. Her response was she would rather go out to car, see it ransacked, and know someone went through it, than to have it locked and not know someone tried to get into it. I told her that was the dumbest shit I ever heard and never locked her car again, mine remained locked.

 

[salvino]

Broken Windows was not a success in NYC, it lead directly to stop and frisk which made everyone a target and every cop a fascist pig. And FWIW shit bags gonna shit bag wherever they are, cops or no cops.

Well that’s one man’s opinion.

 

[joeym7]

Well, I got my first official MOPAR accesory in prep for my Mojave comming in January...Yep, $24 locking gas cap - lol so now I can add that cost to my new $65K truck... Jeep has a great business model, offer a stripped down version of the truck (at all trim levels) and get the customer then to pay for fundimental parts like a roof - lol, head-lights that are (actually) powerfull enough to be of use at night, a locking gas cap, a locking hood unit, etc, which usually come with even a $20K car....Yesterday I had to ping my sales man to make sure the Mojave (ACTUALLYY) comes with a jack and lug-wrench. Hey, with jeep you just never know - LOL!

Even with all this, I still got suckered ;-) in to buying one of these expensive beasts...Although "suckered", I am still "excited" to get it and I am sure it will be a lot of fun!

At any rate, it took me 20 mins to figure out how to use the gas cap, belive me, it isn't obvious lol, - No instructions included -and I'm not the only one, luckilly folks on Amazon (I got mine from the MOPAR parts dealer out on Long Island) were having a hard time with it also and some kind gentlemen posted the soluttion.

Given this, I'll have the dealer install the hood lock .

All in fun, but plenty of "truth" to it too.

 

[Devil Dog]

I’ve been fortunate. Never had anything stolen from my vehicles, or any vandalism. Although, my dad and I found a runaway girl sleeping in my old Studebaker truck one morning, when I was about 17. I have no clue who she was, but, it was wild. That was in the 70’s, when I lived in SoCal.

That sounds like the beginning of a porno

 

[ACAD_Cowboy]

Well that’s one man’s opinion.

Prove me wrong then. It made wide swaths of the population dislike, at best, and distrust, at worst, the police while also fomenting endless public outcry; from the left it was the slippery slope into fascist brute squads and from the right it was an ineffective waste of funding that returned little in results and usually with ridicule in the press as the cherry on top.

Does broken windows work in it's initial incarnation? I suppose but it is a reflection of community based enforcement where the community is beating the drum of the operational tempo, not the administration. It fails when police officers who aren't memebers of the given community are injected into situations with cultural and social tails, long tails at that. These same officers are then being told to get tough on crime starting at the bottom so kids who shoplift candy are hauled down to the station, the gifted artist who has no outlet and turns to graffiti is hunted and all the sad tropes get dragged out of the closet and dusted off anew in the name of maintaining performance statistics. This is like saying oh there is no quota on moving violations, however officers who fail to produce a "standardized volume" of citations (code for revenue) will be negativly appraised and this will inevitably result in negative reviews and failure to advance, despite fact that resolving interactions with the public by means alternate to citations, arrest and incarceration can have positive social outcomes. Following the get hard from the bottom model you have a police force that actively weeds out progressive and whole community minded officers in favor of officers who see you as a statistic and the more check boxes you can rack up the better for your reviews. You have made policing a game at that point. On the community side you have just built another horse on the prison to streets to prison merry-go-round where highly negative police interactions continuously reinforce your unwillingness to interact, your uncooperativeness when doing so and your unacceptence of unilateral responses.

If you want it to work right you need to develop your corps from within your communities to be policed, develop and promote positive interaction and interactivity and utilize the community as a tool for administrative decision making. It's like letting the kids help cook, even small tasks help build confidence and comfort which results in them taking ownership and responsibility.

In a very dark way, some of the safest I've ever felt in NYC has been in some of the shitiest neighborhoods ruled over by unquestionably bad hombres. Why? The latin kings brook no fucking around! Yes they run their situation but there's no purse snatching and the like because that draws attention. But they also live in their community and so they hold doors, pay their tabs and make sure old ladies have enough to eat because a community that is supported doesn't attract attention either. I suppose it is the black mirror version of broken windows but the root point is for it to work right you need to not be an occupying force that can win the game by arresting, beating and imprisoning the whole community at once.

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