VIC, Push to Start, and shifter indicator never turn off, any ideas?

[sass JT]

To the op, have you gone into the setting menu and checked your time off after pressing to off settings?

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[ShadowsPapa]

To the op, have you gone into the setting menu and checked your time off after pressing to off settings?

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He says they never turn off - those should not display with no fob present.
Curious - what setting are you talking about? Time off after pressing to off?

 

[sass JT]

I might be off in saying it but from the owners manual… check the key off settings.
If I’m wrong I’m wrong.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The only things that apply are like how long the radio will play when you shut the ignition off before you open the door, etc. The cluster will still go blank and won't show the press brake, etc. to start unless the fob is present.

So these are all that will apply, and they still go off after the given time (in settings). So far all I've found to be impacted with these settings is lighting and radio.......... not cluster. It's so you can finish your favorite song after you shut the engine off LOL The longest is 10 minutes, which means if he goes back 15 minutes later, the truck should be dead. (no lights, no cluster display)

 

[OldGoth72]

Pretty sure that wouldn't cause a denied claim. they have to prove that the accessory item didn't cause the issue. The 9100 wouldn't cause the vehicle to 'wake' just by being attached to the battery. That has to be some other circuit integrated with the computer to wake the computer up.




You should take the time to make sure that all of your door connectors are attached securely and not just partly attached. I read on another thread that someone had a vehicle from the factory with wiring connectors not fully pressed together and it was causing issues.

Chad,

My gladiator doesn't have any power in the doors. No power windows, door locks, or mirrors, and I don't believe there is even an electrical cable in the door sill. I'll double check in the morning, and if I find anything that remotely could be a cable or cable wrap, I'll check.

As I said, I've physically installed the SP-9100 and a CB Bar with two radios with the SP-9100 head unit. No electrical connections have been made as when I did the physical installs, that's when I noticed the VIC and the other items not turning off. I stopped my installation at that point, no wiring attached to the Jeep's systems. My wife typically works a late shift, and she's the one that confirmed that it had been doing this since it came home. Right now, it all looks pretty and cabling is ran to where it needs to go, but no electrical is hooked up.

 

[OldGoth72]

To the op, have you gone into the setting menu and checked your time off after pressing to off settings?

Doors On - Engine Off: 45sec.
Doors Off - Engine Off: 0sec.
Headlight Off Delay: 0sec.

 

[IamPro2A]

Chad,

My gladiator doesn't have any power in the doors. No power windows, door locks, or mirrors, and I don't believe there is even an electrical cable in the door sill. I'll double check in the morning, and if I find anything that remotely could be a cable or cable wrap, I'll check.

Our JK has no power anything, and it STILL has a connection to the door. I'm guessing this is just so it knows when the doors are off and can act accordingly.

 

[DobaMark]

I had this problem on my 2020 Jeep Wrangler. I disconnected battery power (both batteries), waited a minute or two, reconnected, and the problem never came back. It was still under warranty but this problem never came back and it was easier than a trip to the dealer.

 

[chorky]

Chad,

My gladiator doesn't have any power in the doors. No power windows, door locks, or mirrors, and I don't believe there is even an electrical cable in the door sill. I'll double check in the morning, and if I find anything that remotely could be a cable or cable wrap, I'll check.

As I said, I've physically installed the SP-9100 and a CB Bar with two radios with the SP-9100 head unit. No electrical connections have been made as when I did the physical installs, that's when I noticed the VIC and the other items not turning off. I stopped my installation at that point, no wiring attached to the Jeep's systems. My wife typically works a late shift, and she's the one that confirmed that it had been doing this since it came home. Right now, it all looks pretty and cabling is ran to where it needs to go, but no electrical is hooked up.

ImaPro2A said it already but even without power stuff you still have sensors that tell when the door is open or closed. My thought is one of those sensors could be bad so even if your dome light times out the sensor says the door is open making the computer wake up to be ready for push button activation.

As for the accessories - dont even worry about those at all. They have no bearing on the cause of your issue. Hope you can find it.

 

[sharpsicle]

You should take the time to make sure that all of your door connectors are attached securely and not just partly attached. I read on another thread that someone had a vehicle from the factory with wiring connectors not fully pressed together and it was causing issues.

This isn't a bad theory. A problem with the door harness connection does many weird things.

I would see what happens if you remove or disconnect the doors. Once it thinks the doors are gone it'll change behavior. If your issue goes away when it does that, you've narrowed it down. That's also a good time to inspect the pins and make sure none are bent.

 

[Hootbro]

I can think of multiple reasons for this issue. Bad BCM, bad wiring elsewhere causing the BCM to stay awake, bad wiring on a CAN BUS and few others.

If me, I would push to have the dealership deal with this under warranty. As to the diagnostic fee, that has been debated in many other threads but I would either find another dealership or take it the one that wants to charge the diagnostic fee that it is only paid if proven a non warranty issue and it should be rolled into the warranty work and charged back to FCA/Stellantis.

There is no magic bullet and internet stabbing guesses run the risk of further intrusion that may eventually impact warranty coverage if and when you finally decide to take it in for warranty repair.

 

[OldGoth72]

I had this problem on my 2020 Jeep Wrangler. I disconnected battery power (both batteries), waited a minute or two, reconnected, and the problem never came back. It was still under warranty but this problem never came back and it was easier than a trip to the dealer.

Mark,

I'll give that a try tonight when I get home from work and let you all know. Worth a try.

 

[OldGoth72]

I can think of multiple reasons for this issue. Bad BCM, bad wiring elsewhere causing the BCM to stay awake, bad wiring on a CAN BUS and few others.

If me, I would push to have the dealership deal with this under warranty. As to the diagnostic fee, that has been debated in many other threads but I would either find another dealership or take it the one that wants to charge the diagnostic fee that it is only paid if proven a non warranty issue and it should be rolled into the warranty work and charged back to FCA/Stellantis.

There is no magic bullet and internet stabbing guesses run the risk of further intrusion that may eventually impact warranty coverage if and when you finally decide to take it in for warranty repair.

HootBro,

Agreed, I have an appointment scheduled for the 26th of this month. I'm going to attempt the battery disconnect as well as attempt to test all the fuses (maybe it's something that simple).

If neither of these work, I'll take it in and see what they say. I'm already planning to physically remove everything I'm planning on adding so that it doesn't even come up in the discussion (it'll be easier now that I know where it's all going ). My hope was that maybe this was something seen before and was easy to address.

 

[OldGoth72]

Ok, so I tested all of the fuses, no failed fuses. As for the battery disconnect, after testing the fuses, I didn't do it as I'm concerned this might uncover something else.

I'm going to remove the CB Bar, radios, and the SP-9100 from her before I take it in to reduce any arguments with the service department.

Whatever the outcome on this I'll post an update on what it is/was as well as whatever the fix is. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions!

 

[OldGoth72]

So about two weeks before my appointment with the dealership, the problem went away on its own. I came out one morning and everything was off. Since then, the problem hasn't reappeared. I kept the appointment with the dealership and they checked everything. They stated that it was most likely a "stuck" computer or module, and it may have received an over the air update, which cause the system to reboot.

Either way, it's fixed now, and if it shows back up, it's now on file with Jeep.

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