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It will be interesting to see how the company rebrands themselves. They have branded themselves as the big displacement misfits these past ten years. Besides Jeep, I’m not sure where else in their lineup they have any amount of uniqueness once their v8 options are gone.

I appreciate the advice. This is my seventh wrangler, but first hardtop. I could see how it could be the hardtop. The sound really came on once the weather turned cold. I’ll look up the torque specs and see if there are any loose bolts. Silicone grease is a good idea as well!

I was moving around, from the passenger side to the driver side. I’m going to try putting the seats down and see if they changes anything. I could swear when I was in the back seat that it was coming from the bed, but it really sounds like it is also coming from inside. Drives me crazy. Lol

My Mojave began to have a rattle, what seems to be near the bed of the truck. It’s not a metal rattle, but sounds more hollow and a lower frequency. At first, I thought it was coming from an interior trim piece. Nope. I sat in the back seat while my wife drove it around. Next, I got under the...

Somewhat of a comparison video between the Bronco and the JL.

I’ve had trash and other items thrown in my Jeep over the years. Had my stereo and speakers stolen out of my YJ right in my driveway years ago.

I agree. Some are ok with the power while others are not. Nothing wrong with that!

I’m not rating it’s performance on this measure. It’s performance lacks under the curve. In a truck, you want and need torque down low. Below 2k rpms this motor is gutless and it is amplified by the weight of the vehicle. I knew this going in and I am learning to deal with it. Besides the...

My point is that even optimal acceleration is not ver optimal. As mentioned above, lack of power is an issue in the midsized truck segment. With emissions and epa regulations, not sure of a fix.

I too have thinned the herd. Tell me about the motor in the pic.

I wasn’t giving a comparison, I was giving perspective. You made the comment that my wife didn’t drive another truck. I said she had. Again, lens of experience. If you think 377hp is high, then I prove my point.

I hope my truck is not damned. Our belief systems are created through our lens of experience. If all you ever driven has been older trucks, then I can see your thoughts about the Gladiator being zippy. My wife would drive my 2019 Ram 5.7 quite often. She daily drives a supercharged Audi Q5 and...

I can tell. It’s a fine motor for a sedan. It doesn’t do well carrying two and half tons around.

Very little in my Gladiator. I did quite a bit in my JLR. The motor is not an issue off road, but a majority of buyers, including those who take their Jeep off road use it primarily on paved roads. This is where the motor is an issue. I let my wife drive my Mojave last week. She hopped out of it...

Reread my post. I never referred the Pentastar has a sports car motor. I was referring to motors found in sports cars typically make their peak power in the high rpm range. With this being said, the motor makes better sense in a sporty car than an off road vehicle.

It all comes down to tolerance. Can you tolerate the 3.6 in the JL/JT? From this thread, some can, some can’t. Sure it works for the vehicle, but it’s power delivery is not the most ideal for the size and weight. Midsize trucks have creeped up in size of yesterday’s full size trucks, but still...

The Pentastar motor is for global use over many platforms. It wasn’t designed for the Wrangler (this is clearly evident), but be universal enough that it can serve a wide model range. Although it has proven to be fairly reliable, it’s not a very good choice for the wrangler, and an even poorer...

Drive it home. It won’t hurt it.

The most important miles to a motor are the first 20. I did my usual, warm up the motor for the first eight miles and then do a couple partial (50%) throttle pulls up to about 4K rpms and allowing the motor to drop down to 2.5k rpms. Do that about five times and that will set the rings. After...

Re-gearing and a pedal commander is probably your best bet. You need low gearing to make up for the lack of torque and a pedal commander to eliminate the delay in throttle response. My eight speed auto also suffers from delayed throttle response. Actually, all new vehicles with drive by wire...