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  1. Do you really want a first year production?...

    My point exactly. It's all speculation. Quit worrying and obsessing; rely on your warranty (if needed) and simply enjoy your rig.
  2. Do you really want a first year production?...

    Yes. JT is based on JL which is based on JK etc. Some say the final year of production is the best. That might be true in terms of bug fixes, but it's also when manufacturers have found all the ways to cheapen production and cut costs. First year of production might give you the highest...
  3. When order a Rubi - what tires

    The question is "preferred for what?" AT will give you longer tread life, smoother ride, quieter ride. MT will give you shorter tread life, more grip on mud and rough terrain. Maybe even in snow ( It's not just about your needs/application, but also your wants. If your priority is function...
  4. Anyone running bone stock?

    Mods are so tempting and they make your Jeep your own, but for those of us who are keeping it stock: for how long? and why? And what limitations have you run into vs. a modified Jeep?
  5. start stop technology

    Not a fan of stop-start. I'll be hitting the disable button every trip. I already do that with the Ram, putting the auto trans into "tow/haul" mode (to lower the shift point RPMs) as soon as I turn it on. It's as automatic as putting on the seat belt :D Easy peasy. I'm thankful it's an option...
  6. Any Full-Size Converts?

    Full size convert here, coming from a Ram 1500 regular cab, short bed, with the 5.7L hemi. Had JK 2 and 4 doors before but in the end I'm a pickup guy. I'll miss the power and torque of the 5.7L, but what converted me were the pros: - fun factor - easy-off freedom panels - relatively easy-off...
  7. Gladiator Pricing Calculator WorkSheet

    Looks like it depends on the trim level. The jeep.com builder lets you configure a Sport S with a 5 inch radio, basic A/C controls and Alpine premium sound. One thing to keep in mind is the Alpine (9 speakers plus 12-channel amp) may not run at its full potential when driven by a cheaper radio...
  8. Ordering or Off the lot?

    Off the lot: Dealer is often paying for a vehicle to be on the lot ("floor plan" or whatever they call it), so dealer has incentive to get rid of it (especially at end of month). The longer it sits, the more the dealer pays. You also get to see and feel the exact vehicle you might buy. It's like...
  9. Required Rubicon Options??

    A few years ago I ran into a similar scenario with a custom order Ram. I didn't want to be forced into a couple options that were now mandatory (according to the dealer's order screen). If I remember correctly there was an option the dealer could check "already/previously ordered" and it would...
  10. Jeep and fire wood

    Even the 2-door JK wants to play at this game.
  11. Is 4 Weeks in D1 a long time?

    Ordered one month ago, I'm in still the D1 holding pattern.
  12. WeatherTech window deflectors: Fit Gladiator?

    I'll probably hold out for the WeatherTech ones that slide into the channel for a cleaner look, but this is good to know, thanks.
  13. Mt's in the snow

    I'm in Maine and ran stock BFG M/T (I think they were KM2) on my JK, and they were great in 4WD in the snow. Better than the Dick Cepeks I ran before them, which were supposedly a hybrid AT/MT. So this time around I went with MT. If you can find something with sipes, even better. You probably...
  14. WeatherTech window deflectors: Fit Gladiator?

    Bummer - I was looking forward to MOPAR half doors. too. Thanks for the info though.
  15. WeatherTech window deflectors: Fit Gladiator?

    I had these WeatherTech window deflectors on my JK and love them! In-channel design is clean, looks better than outside of channel stick-ons. Nice to be able to leave your windows cracked in the summer to keep the interior cool but not worrying about a pop-up rain storm. WeatherTech site says...
  16. Anyone seen dealers trying to dissuade purchases?

    Me & wife bought her a hot item Honda mini van in 2001 about the time kiddos were born and paid sticker. She drove it for 14 years and it needed almost nothing the entire time, and we sold it for asking price when still running strong at 103k miles. Never again sticker price, but she deserved it.
  17. Anyone seen dealers trying to dissuade purchases?

    I find it hilarious the California based sticker says "Protecting the Consumer" followed rather quickly by a $10,000 markUP and $thirteen thousand dollars for a simple wheels and lift upgrade.
  18. Anyone seen dealers trying to dissuade purchases?

    $10K markup and $500 nitro fill :D It's a free market. There's an arse for every seat.
  19. Buyer's Remorse

    Things like grief, mental health or PTSD are real and can really mess with you. Don't let the timing fool you. If you bought the same rig five years ago, would you be feeling the same level of guilt? The two events aren't related. Enjoy fond memories of your best friend, and do the same with...
  20. Order shut down?

    4 to 5% under invoice sounds good. But other dealers aren't letting you test drive? Please elaborate. If a dealer says I can't test drive a rig I'm about to drop $50K on, I'd think it's time to walk.




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