392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Thunderspud]

Never noticed the dudes teeth. Don't care enough to watch.

This guy has probably gotten more clicks on this article from the people making fun of him than he did when he first published this heresy.

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[gonemad]

Dang Toothless K's Garbage was wrong on the JT Hemi. Instead they are increasing 5.7 production to 730 jobs per day to support the RAM 1500 DT instead.

Apropos of nothing, I worked at dealership that included a Dodge franchise many years ago.

The top Dodge sales guy (this included trucks, and minivans, etc) once said to me in the Dodge showroom,

“You know what you get when you have 32 Dodge customers in the showroom?"




“A full set of teeth."

 

[gonemad]

Stan, sir, if I may. I was 27 when Chrysler bought Jeep.

Jeep has always been Jeep to me.

I worked on Chrysler products as a young wrench in the early ’70’s. I didn’t like them then.

One can diss Chrysler, and respect Jeep. At least the Jeep legacy.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Stan, sir, if I may. I was 27 when Chrysler bought Jeep.

Jeep has always been Jeep to me.

I worked on Chrysler products as a young wrench in the early ’70’s. I didn’t like them then.

One can diss Chrysler, and respect Jeep. At least the Jeep legacy.

Iacocca wanted AMC because AMC had the Jeep Grand Cherokee in the works. It was on the engineering drawings. It was already a concept in the planning stages and he wanted it soooo badly.
How do I know that part? I spoke directly with former AMC employees, one of them an interior design engineer (the guy who chose from over a half dozen ideas from Pierre Cardin and chose what later became the PC AMX interior)
He was there at the time - in the same room as one of the engineers involved.

Iacocca made all sorts of promises - we'll keep AMC employees, people are safe, don't worry about it and so on.
The ink was barely dry and he ordered the destruction of many spare parts - literally "dumpster them" and fired people left and right, keeping some of the engineers who were responsible for a new engine concept that worked into the Magnum series.
AMC had some great ideas for engines and Jeep, but they didn't have the money to make it happen after being raped and pillaged by Renault.

 

[gonemad]

@ShadowsPapa Thanks for that background.

 

[Stan H]

Iacocca wanted AMC because AMC had the Jeep Grand Cherokee in the works. It was on the engineering drawings. It was already a concept in the planning stages and he wanted it soooo badly.
How do I know that part? I spoke directly with former AMC employees, one of them an interior design engineer (the guy who chose from over a half dozen ideas from Pierre Cardin and chose what later became the PC AMX interior)
He was there at the time - in the same room as one of the engineers involved.

Iacocca made all sorts of promises - we'll keep AMC employees, people are safe, don't worry about it and so on.
The ink was barely dry and he ordered the destruction of many spare parts - literally "dumpster them" and fired people left and right, keeping some of the engineers who were responsible for a new engine concept that worked into the Magnum series.
AMC had some great ideas for engines and Jeep, but they didn't have the money to make it happen after being raped and pillaged by Renault.

Renault ? Now I remember Chrysler buying Jeep but I am unfamiliar with the Renault thing.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Renault ? Now I remember Chrysler buying Jeep but I am unfamiliar with the remnant thing.

It's why AMC had to sell off AM General, a military contractor of trucks, Jeeps, other military vehicles.

Renault got involved with AMC, taking a majority ownership of AMC stock. AMC needed cash, Renault had it, but........... it was basically their death knell.

Federal government regulations at that time forbade ownership of defense contractors by foreign governments — and the French government partially owned Renault (and thus, AMC)

AMC made the General Products Division of Jeep (producing military trucks as well as contract and non-commercial vehicles) a wholly owned subsidiary and renamed it "AM General Corporation"

Due to the federal rules, AMC ended up having to sell AM General in 83.

 

[Mr Miami]

Iacocca wanted AMC because AMC had the Jeep Grand Cherokee in the works. It was on the engineering drawings. It was already a concept in the planning stages and he wanted it soooo badly.
How do I know that part? I spoke directly with former AMC employees, one of them an interior design engineer (the guy who chose from over a half dozen ideas from Pierre Cardin and chose what later became the PC AMX interior)
He was there at the time - in the same room as one of the engineers involved.

Iacocca made all sorts of promises - we'll keep AMC employees, people are safe, don't worry about it and so on.
The ink was barely dry and he ordered the destruction of many spare parts - literally "dumpster them" and fired people left and right, keeping some of the engineers who were responsible for a new engine concept that worked into the Magnum series.
AMC had some great ideas for engines and Jeep, but they didn't have the money to make it happen after being raped and pillaged by Renault.

Thanks for your extensive background information into the products. I guess then it was AMC that bought Kaiser out. I had a couple of older '66 and '67 Jeepsters when I was in high school and I remember the Kaiser plate under the hood. That was when they used enough steel that you could stand on the hood and not bend it.

I remember coming home from my job after school and I had opened the hood for some reason to check the oil or something. Anyway, that was before they had the latch thing on the hood. I hadn't closed the hood all the way. I hit about 40MPH and in one motion the hood blew off the Jeepster like a frisbee, went who knows how high in the air, and I recall seeing it land flat on the road about a block behind me (fortunately no one was close behind me). I turned around, drove back to the hood, lifted it up, put it on, made sure it was locked this time, and you would never know anything happened. Hardly a scratch.

If nothing else, they were tough.

 

[gonemad]

Thanks for your extensive background information into the products. I guess then it was AMC that bought Kaiser out. I had a couple of older '66 and '67 Jeepsters when I was in high school and I remember the Kaiser plate under the hood. That was when they used enough steel that you could stand on the hood and not bend it.

I remember coming home from my job after school and I had opened the hood for some reason to check the oil or something. Anyway, that was before they had the latch thing on the hood. I hadn't closed the hood all the way. I hit about 40MPH and in one motion the hood blew off the Jeepster like a frisbee, went who knows how high in the air, and I recall seeing it land flat on the road about a block behind me (fortunately no one was close behind me). I turned around, drove back to the hood, lifted it up, put it on, made sure it was locked this time, and you would never know anything happened. Hardly a scratch.

If nothing else, they were tough.

Must have been the same gauge steel as my ’63 Rambler 440. The sheet metal was like a Checker Cab. Like light armour.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I guess then it was AMC that bought Kaiser out.

Yes, when Kaiser decided to stop making automobiles........ about 1970. Took a year to adapt the Jeeps for the AMC engines so you'd still see a model year where AMC made the Jeep, but with a non-AMC engine.

 

[Stan H]

It's why AMC had to sell off AM General, a military contractor of trucks, Jeeps, other military vehicles.

Renault got involved with AMC, taking a majority ownership of AMC stock. AMC needed cash, Renault had it, but........... it was basically their death knell.

Federal government regulations at that time forbade ownership of defense contractors by foreign governments — and the French government partially owned Renault.

AMC made the General Products Division of Jeep (producing military trucks as well as contract and non-commercial vehicles) a wholly owned subsidiary and renamed it "AM General Corporation"

Due to the federal rules, AMC ended up having to sell AM General in 83.

Who did they sell to?

 

[Mr Miami]

Yes, when Kaiser decided to stop making automobiles........ about 1970. Took a year to adapt the Jeeps for the AMC engines so you'd still see a model year where AMC made the Jeep, but with a non-AMC engine.

Yes, Jeep was even using "other" engines in the Jeepsters ('66, '67) I had. They had, what was relatively new at the time, a V6. They were made by Buick. 231 ci if my memory is correct.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Who did they sell to?

LTV, don't know much about it other than they kept buying a lot of companies, and eventually sold to another company.

 

[Stan H]

LTV, don't know much about it other than they kept buying a lot of companies, and eventually sold to another company.

Maybe general motors. HumVees and that deal.

 

[Hootbro]

Iacocca made all sorts of promises - we'll keep AMC employees, people are safe, don't worry about it and so on.

That was not unique to Iacocca when it came to corporate buyouts and mergers.

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