392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Glamisfan]

Here’s my prediction of how it will play out. The 392JL will continue the same. They should have to drop the price a little bit because the bronco raptor went down by 10,000 but not sure if Jeep will ever drop the price. Unless the economy forces them to. I think the gladiator will get the 392 in the middle of 2026. It’ll be priced the same as the JL. I think Jeep wants to get all the people that are just dying for a V8 JT and know that they will be happy to spend big bucks. Then I think/hope that they will put the 5.7 in the JT in about three years from now so about two years after the 392 JT comes out.

And while I wish they would do a 5.7 JL, for some reason I just have a feeling that they won’t do it.

Side note
The JK ran for 11 years as a 2008 model started production 2007 and production went through the middle of 2018. JL also came out in 2018 so I think it will be 2029 when we see a new JL. The JT started production in 2019 as a 2020 Model. So I think we’ll see a new JT in 2030.

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[Zachanadandy]

Sounds like a screaming 4.0 there, so, that's just skinny pedal and wheel speed, horsepower not so much a fun watch nonetheless.

I didn't say it was high horsepower, but it was enough rpm to get all she was going to muster. I do miss wheeling beater rigs that I didn't care one way or another what I bounced them off of (not that I'm easy on the JLUR or JTM).

 

[Zachanadandy]

Here’s my prediction of how it will play out. The 392JL will continue the same. They should have to drop the price a little bit because the bronco raptor went down by 10,000 but not sure if Jeep will ever drop the price. Unless the economy forces them to. I think the gladiator will get the 392 in the middle of 2026. It’ll be priced the same as the JL. I think Jeep wants to get all the people that are just dying for a V8 JT and know that they will be happy to spend big bucks. Then I think/hope that they will put the 5.7 in the JT in about three years from now so about two years after the 392 JT comes out.

And while I wish they would do a 5.7 JL, for some reason I just have a feeling that they won’t do it.

Side note
The JK ran for 11 years as a 2008 model started production 2007 and production went through the middle of 2018. JL also came out in 2018 so I think it will be 2029 when we see a new JL. The JT started production in 2019 as a 2020 Model. So I think we’ll see a new JT in 2030.

With the JLs there's been 2 ways to get a v8, buy the 392 all loaded up with stuff you may not want or pay $30k plus for a swap. Unless you started with a base model sport the 392 has always been the cheaper route. I hope they offer a Mojave 392, with xr/35" tire package in the JT but who knows what they'll do.

 

[Hootbro]

Both were correct - it may be coming (yet to be seen) but not on the timeline the first toothless dude was stating.
And the first one had NO inside information - no way he knew what the CEO was going to say, and there are no indications at the factory of any changes coming soon. So he was wrong in that respect.

It would just kill you to give the guy his dues.

 

[Zachanadandy]

It would just kill you to give the guy his dues.

It's like any psychic, make enough general predictions and you'll be at least partially right sometimes. The café fines on hold and Stellantis ramping up v8 production were clear indicators that it could happen. The click bait videos saying it WAS going to happen were nothing more than speculation. Even a wild guess can be right sometimes.

 

[Teqsand]

But aren't the JTD's limited in towing capacity to 5000#? So the only real gain is MPGs and "historically" longer engine life.

I'd be happy with just the 5.7L.

We both got the diesels to easily turn 37's with no regear on the trails..... not a lot but getting there

 

[Jrgunn5150]

It would just kill you to give the guy his dues.

When a 5.7 JT Gladiator rolls off the line at Toledo Supplier park, this year, he'll have been right.

Until then he's just throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks.

 

[Mr Miami]

If I recall correctly, it's a payload limit. I don't recall the towing numbers.

Using the numbers from our area - I did some calculations and found that if you consider only the fuel itself, the mpg thing is a wash as far as fuel cost per mile.
It will vary by location, but I could not justify a diesel based on mpg alone because the cost of the fuel would be a wash.
Considering the extra oil required each change and other maintenance, for me - made no sense at all.
Cost of ownership overall is likely higher for the diesel, so you pay for that torque/power/feel and the other abilities elsewhere.
Some can either justify it - by numbers or by preference. I can't.

Here we go - found my 2022 owner manual -

At least here in FL, diesel is usually midway between premium and regular, often at the price of the 89 octane stuff. I have seen it at times down to about the same price as regular but it typically is 20 to 30 cents higher.

I know I'm a bit slow, but I just saw several comments here on other threads that the 2.0 turbo requires premium fuel. At least in my neighborhood, regular is now about $3.10 and premium about $3.70 per gallon. Well, that makes fuel more expensive for it than the 3.6. The monroney sticker has the 3.6 at about 19 MPG and the 2.0 at 21 MPG, give or take a mile. So with the 2.0 I get 10% better mileage but pay 20% more for the fuel. So, at least in my simple mind, the 3.6 is the same or better when it comes to the cost of fuel.

So the people with the diesels do pay about 10% more for fuel but get like 30% more MPG. I don't have a diesel but could have had one when the prices were in the basement for about the same as I paid for my Rubicon, like 43-44k. In fact, I recall one of the 2003s at the local dealer in black (not the most favorite color here in the FL sun) advertised at 39,500. They had others in the low 40's but I was just not into the idea of the extra cost of maintenance and possible cost down the road of having it repaired. Also, I wanted the 7k towing and it was limited to 6k. But for many people, it seems like a great option.

 

[Hootbro]

When a 5.7 JT Gladiator rolls off the line at Toledo Supplier park, this year, he'll have been right.

Until then he's just throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks.

He mentioned 2026 when he first brought up the subject.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It would just kill you to give the guy his dues.

For what? A horseshoe landing close to the stake..............

You seemed to be talking a bit differently weeks ago.

The extension of the 392 in JL was shown months ago - that alone could be his basis for predicting.

You'd have to have friends willing to take risks up in higher places to have any real inside information.
IF he's got people on the board and in management working the contracts with suppliers then he might have "inside information".

I'll give him his "due" when there's a V8 JT produced in 2026.
Right now - he's not been correct, not so far. There's nothing out there supporting his prediction. Even the CEO's comments leave a heck of a lot of space - and room for speculation.

 

[Hootbro]

So it has gone from it will never happen to it could happen but if it does not happen by 2025, the guy was wrong? Seems to be some goal shifting.

I get the broken clock is right twice a day analogies and I am personally not invested in the outcome either way.

Just fun to watch out how it plays out.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

He mentioned 2026 when he first brought up the subject.

That's the problem with attempting to fact check a guy who has verbal, digital diarrhea. 7 videos a day, 7 days a week, and every previous prediction get's lost in the sauce.

His initial statement was, the 5.7 is coming back to the US to be built in the US... It is not.

Also, that it was coming to the Gladiator, it is not.

Also that the mid size Ram will be built in Belvidere and on the Gladiator chassis. It is not.

And repeated multiple times, United States built 5.7 engines in the Gladiator. Nope.

He did claim end of 26, like Nostrdamus, just move that goal post forever.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So it has gone from it will never happen to it could happen but if it does not happen by 2025, the guy was wrong? Seems to be some goal shifting.

I get the broken clock is right twice a day analogies and I am personally not invested in the outcome either way.

Just fun to watch out how it plays out.

The rules have changed. The costs to Stellantis have been mostly removed as far as CAFE numbers and fines.
Now they can operate with fewer restrictions - at least for now. Note that since things changed back in June, a lot of shifting is going on out there.
The hemi is not only back "forever" it would seem, but expanding. They faced pretty tough struggles with the fines, stock prices and more earlier. That's gone, now.

You may want to run a 4 minute mile and talk about it, but until the chains are taken off your legs, you'll never really get there. Now they can run more freely.

It's not goal shifting here - it's "the rules have changed". They may have wanted to do this all along, but there just wasn't a way to do it and not be fined into bankruptcy.

I'd almost bet if things hadn't been changed at the EPA and congressional levels this year - it wouldn't be happening. Fines are $0 for not meeting CAFE numbers. No more needing to worry about credits or CA (unless some states win the law suits)

 

[Hootbro]

That's the problem with attempting to fact check a guy who has verbal, digital diarrhea. 7 videos a day, 7 days a week, and every previous prediction get's lost in the sauce.

His initial statement was, the 5.7 is coming back to the US to be built in the US... It is not.

Also, that it was coming to the Gladiator, it is not.

Also that the mid size Ram will be built in Belvidere and on the Gladiator chassis. It is not.

And repeated multiple times, United States built 5.7 engines in the Gladiator. Nope.

He did claim end of 26, like Nostrdamus, just move that goal post forever.

You seem to be smarter than the average bear and I appreciate your inside info you post. How do you reconcile what you see as factory planning data and what statements the CEO puts out?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Reading the CEO's QUOTES and ignoring the bunk by the writers - did the CEO promise a hemi in the Gladiator?
I'm asking - did he specifically say a hemi, or a 5.7 or 6.4 in the JT?
Did he mention a year if he did?
And how long does it take to ramp up to do such a thing? 3 months? 6? 12? 24?

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