392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[RubiNewbCB]

LOL ever heard of AEV?

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[NC_Overland]

I just saw on TFL that my unfortunate prediction came true. The next gen Gladiator in 2028 is expected to be on the new Dakota platform. Nothing in stone but I’d be surprised if it didn’t come true. So IFS, but hopefully they have an offroad package comparable to the Colorado/Canyon ZR2s and/or maybe even the Ranger Raptor.

 

[bleda2002]

I just saw on TFL that my unfortunate prediction came true. The next gen Gladiator in 2028 is expected to be on the new Dakota platform. Nothing in stone but I’d be surprised if it didn’t come true. So IFS, but hopefully they have an offroad package comparable to the Colorado/Canyon ZR2s and/or maybe even the Ranger Raptor.

So it will suck at off roading except for fire trails and sand, sounds horribly lame.

If thats shit they're going to give us they shouldn't even bother making a gladiator, just sell dakotas.

 

[NC_Overland]

So if will suck at off roading except for fire trails got it

No. Not really. ZR2s are very capable. IFS isn’t end all. When I lived in CO, my JKU Rubicon was lemon lawed so I bought a Pro-4X Xterra so I could have something reliable. It was amazingly capable. I had to try a little harder sometimes a what used to having a front wheel off the ground but the ABLS worked fantastic and I still had traction to the other front wheel with one off the ground. I just had to get used to that teeter totter motion. I’m not even exaggerating when I say that I had it off-road for a few thousand miles off-road and it did a lot of pretty difficult trails that many people didn’t think were possible. That was just with 32s. The ZR2s have 35s now.

 

[bleda2002]

No. Not really. ZR2s are very capable. IFS isn’t end all. When I lived in CO, my JKU Rubicon was lemon lawed so I bought a Pro-4X Xterra so I could have something reliable. It was amazingly capable. I had to try a little harder sometimes a what used to having a front wheel off the ground but the ABLS worked fantastic and I still had traction to the other front wheel with one off the ground. I just had to get used to that teeter totter motion. I’m not even exaggerating when I say that I had it off-road for a few thousand miles offroad. That was just with 32s. The ZR2s have 35s now.

I watch them struggle-bus over florida obstacles (which are sad and pathetic) that the jeep does with out user input. When I say good at off roading I mean I can take to windrock and not get stuck on the service roads lol. I am not talking about over landing they do the boring shit just fine, I mean like rough stuff not just driving out in the country or a rutty trail.

I want a jeep and a truck, if I'm just getting a truck I'll go get a big truck that will at least be really good at the truck stuff.

Basically unless the new one is at least as good as the current one at doing jeep stuff then they might as well not bother because there are plenty of other overlanders and soft roaders.

 

[NC_Overland]

I watch them struggle-bus over florida obstacles (which are sad and pathetic) that the jeep does with out user input. When I say good at off roading I mean I can take to windrock and not get stuck on the service roads lol. Most of colorado off road falls about even with windrock service roads so I will stay by my assessment they're good for fire roads and sand but once things get rocky they're basically useless.

This isn’t worth arguing. One, calling all Colorado trails the same is wild. Two. I highly doubt you’ve seen late model ZR2s struggle on easy obstacles. It was probably the previous model, driver error, etc, and C it’s just not worth my time. You win.

 

[gonemad]

5.0 Coyote option in a 2025 Ford truck is $2500. I traded out of a 2017 XLT FX4 5.0 to get in my previous Gladiator.

I’d be tempted, but having bought a 2024 Sport S new, and traded it for a 2025 Rubicon new, it would be one of my dumber financial decisions.

It’s all paid for, but still.

 

[bleda2002]

This isn’t worth arguing. One, calling all Colorado trails the same is wild. Two. I highly doubt you’ve seen late model ZR2s struggle on easy obstacles. It was probably the previous model, driver error, etc, and C it’s just not worth my time. You win.

It is the late model and it still has shitty articulation.

I did retract the statement saying all colorado trails, there is definitely hard shit there and I apologize to Colorado. Much of the popular stuff though is not exactly hard or challenging just remote and scenic was what I was trying to say. If you were out rock hopping that thing more power to you. I also had an fj cruiser back in 08 and I took it all over the place but it definitely couldn't hold even a little of a candle to my gladiator off road.

From what I've seen the zr2 is like the new Tacoma and raptor, they're fine overlanders and if you want to whoop through the desert they're much better than a gladiator but for the stuff I'm looking to do theyre basically useless.

 

[Hootbro]

I think Stellantis and AMW have some sort of a Gentlmen's Business agreement. JEEP would steal a lot of their business if they were to produce Hemi optioned Gladiators. Why not do like Forld and Shelby did for the Shelby GTs, Shelby GT500s and other iterations.

Jeep also has or had a pretty good relationship with AEV and even contracted them to do test mule testing. They still had no problem going into production with the JT even though they had sold under the MOPAR label AEV's "Brute" conversions for the JK. AEV was pretty butt hurt for a few years after the JT launch because they felt Jeep did not give them their due.

Point I am trying to make is that if Jeep thought there was a nickle to be made at scale doing Hemi JT manufacturing and sales, they would not care what AMW is doing or their ability to weather any lost sales AMW would have from it.

 

[NC_Overland]

It is the late model and it still has shitty articulation.

I did retract the statement saying all colorado trails, there is definitely hard shit there and I apologize to Colorado. Much of the popular stuff though is not exactly hard or challenging just remote and scenic was what I was trying to say. If you were out rock hopping that thing more power to you. I also had an fj cruiser back in 08 and I took it all over the place but it definitely couldn't hold even a little of a candle to my gladiator off road.

From what I've seen the zr2 is like the new Tacoma and raptor, they're fine overlanders and if you want to whoop through the desert they're much better than a gladiator but for the stuff I'm looking to do theyre basically useless.

Articulation is important, but they have front and rear lockers and 35s. They’re very capable trucks if you know how to use them. Obviously it’s great to have 4 tires on the ground, but when you have 3/4 with traction it’s still pretty capable. More capable than my old SFA XJ and WJs were stock with their tiny tires and open diffs.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I just saw on TFL that my unfortunate prediction came true. The next gen Gladiator in 2028 is expected to be on the new Dakota platform. Nothing in stone but I’d be surprised if it didn’t come true. So IFS, but hopefully they have an offroad package comparable to the Colorado/Canyon ZR2s and/or maybe even the Ranger Raptor.

They didn't say that.

They said the Dakota will be built in Toledo.

 

[NC_Overland]

They didn't say that.

They said the Dakota will be built in Toledo.

They definitely said that. On the episode at the Detroit auto show. Think about it. If they’re sharing the same platform, there’s zero chance they’re making the Dakota SFA.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

They definitely said that. On the episode at the Detroit auto show. Think about it. If they’re sharing the same platform, there’s zero chance they’re making the Dakota SFA.

Feel free to share a time stamp of the statement that they're sharing a chassis.

 

[NC_Overland]

Just watch the video. It’s in the beginning when they’re waking through the Ram truck section and then they walk over to a gladiator. The jeep section I guess is nearby. He asks if they’re discontinue the Gladiator. Then they get into the details. I forget his name. Andre? The big Russian sounding guy.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I've seen the video.

At no point does anyone say they're sharing a platform.

This is exactly how we get 85 pages on a Hemi Gladiator that isn't happening.

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