392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Wheelin98TJ]

Only matters with large people back there. The amount of stuff we can pack in the back seat area between our JLU and my JT is so similar, it's not worth mentioning unless you are a 6'6" adult.

I’m 5’10” and I can’t sit in the backseat with the front seat all the way back.

I’m curious if there really is 3” more room. If there is, I think that’s a big deal.

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[RudeJeepin]

I’m curious if there really is 3” more room. If there is, I think that’s a big deal.

This has me seriously wondering also. I've never seen or heard that before.
I'm gonna have to measure my Gladiator and my wife's Wrangler when she gets home.

 

[NC_Overland]

It’s definitely bigger than my JKU’s backseat was. Not sure how the JLU and JKU compare in back seat room.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m 5’10” and I can’t sit in the backseat with the front seat all the way back.

I’m curious if there really is 3” more room. If there is, I think that’s a big deal.

My son is over 6 and does fine back there in either vehicle

 

[Cwg33]

I can’t imagine it’s that much difference but possible I guess. I know the JLU & JT rear doors are the same, so it would be interesting to measure from the rear of the door frame to where the seat cushion sits.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

My son is over 6 and does fine back there in either vehicle

I’d like to see measurements, but nobody wants to do it.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I can’t imagine it’s that much difference but possible I guess. I know the JLU & JT rear doors are the same, so it would be interesting to measure from the rear of the door frame to where the seat cushion sits.

Could also measure from the dash to the front of the back seat. Or to the back, bottom of the back seat.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Could also measure from the dash to the front of the back seat. Or to the back, bottom of the back seat.

I know the back seats are slightly different between the Wrangler and the Gladiator. I'll try to get a few measurements shortly.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Could also measure from the dash to the front of the back seat. Or to the back, bottom of the back seat.

A quick measurement in the dark says the Gladiator has 1 inch less room in the back seat.
I measured from the dash to the back of the center console, both were the same. Then I measured from the back of the center console to the front of the rear seat cushion and the bottom of the backrest. Both measurements show the Wrangler having roughly 1 extra inch over the Gladiator.
Both our Jeeps are EcoDiesel Rubicons with clothe seats. So about as close to the same as you can get.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

A quick measurement in the dark says the Gladiator has 1 inch less room in the back seat.
I measured from the dash to the back of the center console, both were the same. Then I measured from the back of the center console to the front of the rear seat cushion and the bottom of the backrest. Both measurements show the Wrangler having roughly 1 extra inch over the Gladiator.
Both our Jeeps are EcoDiesel Rubicons with clothe seats. So about as close to the same as you can get.

So actually less room in the Gladiator back seat.

Thanks for taking the time to do this!

 

[BearFootSam]

Man, I’d just like a lighter-weight diesel with a non-compromised manual transmission. Shoehorning a 392 in sounds cool (literally and figuratively) but I expect it will throw off the dynamics.

 

[GeekJT]

Why should we care if it revs? It pulls the weight without heat issues. I couldn't care less about keeping RPM low - that crap died decades ago. It tows the load and no heat issues. That's what matters.

Agree and disagree.

RPM does still matter. If you have two identical trucks, one diesel and one gas, pulling and identical load for testing purposes, the diesel will do it with lower rpm being used. It is the same amount of "work" being done.

RPM is the method in which an engine wears. Higher RPM, the engine wears faster, more use of the rings, bearings, journals, etc.

However, I would argue, if you're doing a lot of towing, the gladiator isn't the truck for you anyway,especially if you are wanting to tow more than say 4000 lbs often.

 

[Stan H]

Agree and disagree.

RPM does still matter. If you have two identical trucks, one diesel and one gas, pulling and identical load for testing purposes, the diesel will do it with lower rpm being used. It is the same amount of "work" being done.

RPM is the method in which an engine wears. Higher RPM, the engine wears faster, more use of the rings, bearings, journals, etc.

However, I would argue, if you're doing a lot of towing, the gladiator isn't the truck for you anyway,especially if you are wanting to tow more than say 4000 lbs often.

But a diesel and a gas motor are 2 completely different types of motors .
Diesel fuel has about 10% more energy in it right out of the gate.
Diesels have way higher compression because that's what explodes the fuel after it is driven under pressure till it explodes. Compression rational 3.6l= 11.3:1
Compression ratio of 3.0 Eco diesel 16.0:1
The diesel can't rev like a gasses can and doesnt have to . The crank is much bigger the flywheel heavier , the stroke longer .
To me its like trying to compare
Apples and Tomatoes

The only thing they have in common is they both have 60° bank angles

 

[GeekJT]

But a diesel and a gas motor are 2 completely different types of motors .
Diesel fuel has about 10% more energy in it right out of the gate.
Diesels have way higher compression because that's what explodes the fuel after it is driven under pressure till it explodes. Compression rational 3.6l= 11.3:1
Compression ratio of 3.0 Eco diesel 16.0:1
The diesel can't rev like a gasses can and doesnt have to . The crank is much bigger the flywheel heavier , the stroke longer .
To me its like trying to compare
Apples and Tomatoes

The only thing they have in common is they both have 60° bank angles

You can't compare the engines apples to apples, but you can compare them work for work. The diesel is much better for towing because it can put out the same amount of work as the gas engine, but at a much lower rpm and that would mean same work, less wear. Was my point on the diesel. It's made, designed for putting out work with less rpm, by it's nature it does this, it's pro and con is, makes a lot of torque, but not much horsepower.

I was only comparing how each type of engine does at towing. Yeah they are completely different engines 100%.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Actual things being studied for feasibility and cost,

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