392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

I dont know if it would, The weight and suspension do have differences.
I owned a JKU and was always pissed off that it couldn't tow very much or haul very much. It always rocked back and forth .
Same motor I have now ( basically) and same HP and torque . So what makes it tow more. Length and Suspension..
More HP in the gladiator won't do anything to make it a more effective truck. What makes a more effective truck is wider longer heavier and bigger Suspension.. then a bigger motor and transmission follows . . Putting a V8 in a Gladiator is counter productive .

My ecodiesel tow less on paper, but tow way better. Manufacturers play the game of one upping peak numbers at the detriment of the non peak numbers. Sure you can rev the piss out of a pentastar and make peak figures, but a v8 with a better torque curve would improve the gladiator.

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[NC_Overland]

The diesels tow ratings were limited by their cooling capacity. They stated that before and after its release.

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

The diesels tow ratings were limited by their cooling capacity. They stated that before and after its release.

Exactly. I have pulled my camper with a 3.0 with 3.73 gears and with a 3.6 with 3.73 gears. The biggest difference is how it pulls the weight. With the trailer hooked up taking my foot off the break gets me moving in the diesel. With the gasser you have to give it some. And I'll tell ya dispersed camping in rough spots you want to sometimes be ginger with the throttle and that pentastar made things exciting.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

3 inches longer rear seat area is not the same cabin area. Longer wheelbase is better for certain types of obstacles

I thought the Gladiator back seat area was bigger when we looked at both. It seems bigger.

I've seen some sources say there is 2" more leg room in the Gladiator back seat area. Where did you see 3", or did you measure yourself?

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

I thought the Gladiator back seat area was bigger when we looked at both. It seems bigger.

I've seen some sources say there is 2" more leg room in the Gladiator back seat area. Where did you see 3", or did you measure yourself?

No I thought I read that

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

No I thought I read that

So I Google it and find a post by me.

The JT is supposed to have 3" more rear seat room than the JL.

I noticed it when looking at both on the dealer lot.

Here is where I saw 3":

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...ladiator-is-more-than-a-wrangler-pickup-truck

 

[Oilburner]

We're not looking for DRC to certify the tow rating and such. We're just looking to see if the chassis can reject the heat the 5.7 Hemi is gonna make.

I say it can. I'd bet money that the EcoDiesel makes considerably more heat than a NA Hemi. The Eco has a turbo, that just a big heat source. Plus it uses heat and compression to ignite the fuel. I'd hazard a guess, the Eco makes 2x or 3x the BTUs that the 5.7 Hemi does.

Wonder why the 5.7 had a higher tow rating in the Ram 1500, than the EcoDiesel did???

This is basically my thoughts as well. My Ecodiesel makes considerable power, but the engine generates an ass-load of heat to do it.

 

[GeekJT]

Source: Jeep Gladiator 392 V8 Confirmed, Wrangler 392 Continuing Indefinitely

On Thursday, at a media briefing Jeep CEO Bob Broderdorf said the 392 cubic inch V8 engine will be leveraged in the Jeep lineup followed by, “Wrangler and Gladiator fans, and Hemi fans in general, don’t worry.”​

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After this announcement, it’s unlikely any Jeep fans are resting, as some might be hyperventilating. Who’s ready for a four-door pickup with removable doors, roof, and a huge V8 engine? Prepare your bank accounts.​

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Broderdorf said “after being out at the Rubicon Trail, it’s clear just how much people love the roar of the 392.” It’s worth noting, people traverse the Rubicon Trail at slow speeds, which means no engines are roaring.​

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“The 6.4-liter Hemi V8 will have a home at Jeep,” Broderdorf said.​

The 6.4L is butt terrible for off road, worse mpg than the 3.6L. We need a i or v6 with a turbo. Something with direct and port injection, something with 350-400hp. Like this isn't hard, jeep would sell hard again. Why is this such a hard thing for Jeep to wrap their heads around.

The market for 392 80+k jeeps is stupid small.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We're not looking for DRC to certify the tow rating and such. We're just looking to see if the chassis can reject the heat the 5.7 Hemi is gonna make.

Then you are going to have to tow under those same circumstances.. Casual use isn't going to do.
If you don't compare apples to apples, why bother? Are you suggesting less of a test just so some can say "see, I was right, it does fine"?
Tow up steep grades, the same weight and the same temperatures.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My ecodiesel tow less on paper, but tow way better. Manufacturers play the game of one upping peak numbers at the detriment of the non peak numbers. Sure you can rev the piss out of a pentastar and make peak figures, but a v8 with a better torque curve would improve the gladiator.

Why should we care if it revs? It pulls the weight without heat issues. I couldn't care less about keeping RPM low - that crap died decades ago. It tows the load and no heat issues. That's what matters.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So I Google it and find a post by me.


Here is where I saw 3":

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...ladiator-is-more-than-a-wrangler-pickup-truck

Only matters with large people back there. The amount of stuff we can pack in the back seat area between our JLU and my JT is so similar, it's not worth mentioning unless you are a 6'6" adult.

 

[NC_Overland]

Exactly. I have pulled my camper with a 3.0 with 3.73 gears and with a 3.6 with 3.73 gears. The biggest difference is how it pulls the weight. With the trailer hooked up taking my foot off the break gets me moving in the diesel. With the gasser you have to give it some. And I'll tell ya dispersed camping in rough spots you want to sometimes be ginger with the throttle and that pentastar made things exciting.

Yeah, the 3.6l on 4lo can be touchy. I ran into that with a truck load of passengers recently. I had to apologize for accidentally throwing them around in the back seat. It was actually the same deal. We were scouting spots for dispersed camping and mine was the only vehicle that would make it to the top where the good spots were.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah, the 3.6l on 4lo can be touchy. I ran into that with a truck load of passengers recently. I had to apologize for accidentally throwing them around in the back seat. It was actually the same deal. We were scouting spots for dispersed camping and mine was the only vehicle that would make it to the top where the good spots were.

Pedal Monster will help resolve that.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Then you are going to have to tow under those same circumstances.. Casual use isn't going to do.
If you don't compare apples to apples, why bother? Are you suggesting less of a test just so some can say "see, I was right, it does fine"?
Tow up steep grades, the same weight and the same temperatures.

I'm suggesting that all we really care about is the heat.
For now, aftermarket is the only way we're getting a Hemi Gladdy. Braking and slolam tests aren't gonna show us anything about heat.
Can the Hemi pull the same load as a EcoDiesel with less heat??? That is all I care about, as well as I'm sure most others.

Yes, same load, same hill, same speed, same outside temperature.

In reality, I'm not buying a Hemi Gladiator, NOT getting rid of my EcoDiesel Gladiator.
Now maybe a 5.7 Hemi Wrangler for the wife, just maybe. Price would actually be more important than tow rating with the Wrangler, atleast for me.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Pedal Monster will help resolve that.

OffRoad+, if you have it, should help also.

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