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Just fixed my ticking 3.6 this weekend. Total repair time was 6 hours and it was an intermediate level repair. If you have a decent set of tools, some experience and no warranty its definitely possible for the backyard mechanic.

Symptoms were a generally quiet engine, except over 3000rpm where it started to sound like it was going to start spitting parts out.

Brought my truck into the stealer a few weeks ago, and even though I was under 100,000kms, they wouldn't warranty the repair. They even mysteriously had never heard of right-side intake cams failing hah which I presume is plausible deniability. But whatever, I don't have the patience to be without my vehicle for several weeks, and didn't want to argue with them, or pay their quote ($4500 CAD) so I took the job on myself.

The best guide I've found is in this thread in the link below. I followed it pretty much to the tee and it was fine.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/failed-rocker-arm-camshaft-replacement.118525/

The videos mentioned in the thread are probably the best ones going over the procedure- but they are for the older engines so a couple small differences.


Some tips:
- ziploc bags and labels are your friend. There's a lot of fasteners to remove so best to label them so they go back in the right place
- most of the wires will only reconnect to one place, but the oil control valve solenoids can be mixed up- make sure you mark them
- the PCV valve on the VVL motor is easy to remove (older motor was a PITA apparently), push down on the hose and squeeze the grey plastic connector and it will pop off, then turn the pcv about 60 degrees and it will loosen and can be pulled out
-jeep apparently knows enough about this problem to sell a kit specifically for replacing the right intake cam, rockers, a gasket and rtv (part #68661147AA). Note this was not properly indexed in the Jeep parts database. It may or may not show up as fitting this vehicle when you go to order.
- I also bought 6 valve lash adjusters (they are not in the kit. Part 5047883AC)
- I needed to loosen both oil control valves in order to get enough play in the chain to remove the phaser from the cam
-The tool to lock the cams and loosen the chain is about $400. The cheapo kits on Amazon are for the old engines, not the new VVL ones in our trucks
- when you are using the tool, it doesn't seem to loosen the chain very much at all, I wasn't sure if it was working, but it was enough to remove the cam phaser from the cam
- I removed the main battery but didn't disconnect the aux, that was a potentially stupid mistake as I assumed I had no power until I noticed the interior lights on!


Here's a list of tools I used for the job:

ToolsNotes
Chain Tension Tool & Cam Lockneed VVL tool set $400-$500 (CTA Tools 1205)
Intake Cam Kit
Valve Lash Adjusters
68661147AA x1
5047883AC x6
RTV (included in Intake Kit)RTV in kit requires a small caulking gun
3/8 Ratchet & Metric SocketsLots of 10mm
1/4 Ratchet
t30 torx
t25 torx
8mm Deep Socket (1/4")valve cover
8mm Shallow Socket (1/4")valve cover
1/4" and 3/8" Extensions
in-lbs torque wrenchcam caps & valve cover
ft-lbs torque wrenchoil control valve installation
host pinch off pliers x3three heater hoses at the top
36mm socketoil control valve removal
1 1/16 socketfor turning crank to line engine to TDC
ratcheting breaker barfor turning crank to line engine to TDC
vice grips
paint pento mark timing
hose clamp wrenchto disconnect coolant hoses
spark plug socket 5/8"removing plugs will make engine easier to turn
contact cleaner/brake cleaner/etcclean out torx bolts before removal to avoid stripping
big crescent wrenchneed to turn the cam after reinstall
slot screwdriverhose clamps
phillips screwdriverair cleaner
vinyl gloves (several pairs)lots of oil and grease
work light
needle nose pliershelpful to remove lash adjusters/lifters
1 quart oil
container to soak parts before install
assembly lube
gasket scraper with plastic bladetwo spots with rtv
bungie corduse to hold up coolant hoses out of the way
shop towelsits a messy job
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Fantastic write up. Thanks a million. I am sure I will need this at some point.
 

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I made a mistake in my original post, the kit doesn't include the valve lash adjusters, but they are cheap.

Kit was $523 CAD, adjusters roughly $20. Shipping was $120 add tax and it was $745 CAD which would be about $530 USD total
 

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Do you have the part number/source for the VVL tool set?
 

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The tool set I used is the CTA Tools 1205 which includes both the tension release tools, and the cam locking blocks. It is currently $538 CAD on Amazon.ca but I paid about $400 a few weeks back.

Apparently you can make the old style locking blocks work, and then just buy the right side tension release tool (CTA Tools 3921).

I didn't want to risk it not working and waiting another week or so, so I went ahead and bought the whole kit.

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The tool set I used is the CTA Tools 1205 which includes both the tension release tools, and the cam locking blocks. It is currently $538 CAD on Amazon.ca but I paid about $400 a few weeks back.

Apparently you can make the old style locking blocks work, and then just buy the right side tension release tool (CTA Tools 3921).

I didn't want to risk it not working and waiting another week or so, so I went ahead and bought the whole kit.

Screenshot from 2024-12-03 08-41-35.webp
Thank you! This is very helpful!
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