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BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock

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Hi all, long time lurker first time poster. Here's some info on my current setup, I hope it helps someone make an informed decision. This forum is full of great info, hopefully this adds to it.

Vehicle is stock height 21 Rubicon, no lift.


BFG KO2 37x12.5 R17 Load Range C
Method 703 Matte Black 17x8.5 +25/5.78"

Wheel and tire weigh 94.6lbs according to my bathroom scale. For reference, my stock rims and tires (30,000 miles 11/32 tread) weigh 84.4lbs.
Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 002

Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 004


Height of Tires is 34" 5/8th measured at 37psi from center of tire/wheel. (apologies camera was crooked but level was level)
Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 005


Poke is about 1" all around, stock Rubicon flairs
Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 006

Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 007


Assuming this info is nearly correct, here's the conversion chart from stock. I'm not 100% on stock wheel offset of +36mm, it's an internet number that I found.
Jeep Gladiator BFG KO2 C 37x12.5 R17x8.5 +25 Method 703 Height, Weight, Poke vs Stock 008


Tazer mini set at 36.54 produces an accurate speed, checked at 50, 60, and 70mph with cruise control and a gps speedometer phone app.

Subjective driving impressions over the last 100 miles have been positive. The vehicle performance matches my preferred driving style, which is slooow. i'm about 50/50 local and highway, avg'd 17.5 mpg the last few days of mixed driving. The steering feels very similar to stock. I actually can't feel a difference. The vehicle was starting to wander a bit on the highway on the stock falken wildpeak MT's, and now the wandering is much less pronounced, almost negligable except for heavily crowned roads. Upon inspection of my stock tires, they show signs of over inflation wear (band right down the middle), which could have contributed to the wandering. They were also starting to get louder. These KO2's are usually quiet when new and the change is very noticable and much quieter. But that's an old M/T compared to a brand new A/T, so YMMV. The increased size of the sidewalls defintely absorb the smaller bumps and potholes much better, making the ride less bumpy and more stable, almost feels like I got new shocks (I'm still on the stock fox shocks).

Transmission finds 8th gear at 60-65mph and cruises comfortably, doesn't hunt around for gears. I do not drive or accelerate aggressively (those days are long gone). I know in the back of my head that there has been a loss of power/performance due to +10lbs more wheel/tire weight, but for daily driving around town and on the highway, I perceive no meaningful impact to my driving style due to the bigger tire size & weight. If you accelerate hard or drive real fast, I'm sure there's a downside to going bigger/heavier that one would have to consider, but for me, it hasn't changed anything about the way I drive or expect the jeep to drive.

I hope this information is helpful to someone down the road. I've found bits and pieces of all this info in seperate posts, and it very much informed my purchasing decision. I'd hope someone would/could be helped by having all this in one place.

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Great info, thank you. I have almost the same model (minus the steel bumper and winch, which I'm working on adding). Those rims look great and are on my list for consideration. Can you clarify the tire height? The tape measure reads 34.75" but you said you set Tazer to 36.54". The latter makes sense for a 37 tire. Any issues with rubbing with the 37? Thanks again
 
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Great info, thank you. I have almost the same model (minus the steel bumper and winch, which I'm working on adding). Those rims look great and are on my list for consideration. Can you clarify the tire height? The tape measure reads 34.75" but you said you set Tazer to 36.54". The latter makes sense for a 37 tire. Any issues with rubbing with the 37? Thanks again
Thanks I love the rim too. No rubbing on road, and the mild off roading I’ve done so far I haven’t had rubbing. I anticipate that I will rub on larger rock crawling without a lift/level, so I’m currently just leaving my sway bar connected off-road to limit articulation lol. Probably foolish but it makes sense to me.
The tire height is one of those measurements that can vary depending on the rim width, tire pressure, load index and sidewall stiffness, tire compound, and probably some other factors including marketing gimmickery. The same size KO2 mounted on a different rim might have a different height. I’ve found info of 37” KO2’s with very different heights. So I felt it was info worth sharing on this rim at that pressure.
As far as 36.54, the computer speed sensor reads mechanical revolutions AKA revs per mile. The tire height is correlated to circumference, and so it stands to reason that the tazer uses the 36.54 wheel height as a stand-in reference number for revs per mile. Most people know their tire size in inches, so it makes sense they would use that because who really knows the tires circumference in revs per mile?
 

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Appreciate the added info. Still trying to decide what I want to do, plus my stock tires are still in good shape. Once they run down I’ll make a decision. Leaning toward the 35 x 12.5, though the 37 looks good on yours.
 
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Appreciate the added info. Still trying to decide what I want to do, plus my stock tires are still in good shape. Once they run down I’ll make a decision. Leaning toward the 35 x 12.5, though the 37 looks good on yours.
I went back and forth with that exact same decision, and I realized after that the deciding factor for me was elusive because I didn’t know how it was going to: poke, ride, effect performance, sound, feel, look etc. I dreaded the idea of dropping this much money and having it be worse overall in all these areas. I could live with a cheap mistake but this is some serious coin. So I took a gamble on this midlife-crisis-mobile and couldn’t be happier with the result.
 

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100%! Pretty big investment to take a flyer on
 

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The more unsprung weight you increase the more effect it will have on the shocks . Some may be immediate some will show up over time depending what shocks you are presently running . not a big deal but something to keep in mind
 
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The more unsprung weight you increase the more effect it will have on the shocks . Some may be immediate some will show up over time depending what shocks you are presently running . not a big deal but something to keep in mind
Good point, funny, I just changed out the stock fox shocks for some ranchos RS7MT's for that exact reason. The fox shocks were leaking and althought they were still functioning on the smooth roads, over bumps they were not pleasant. The new ranchos are...well...new. They're temporary(ish) until the lift goes in later this year, and they're handling the increased weight better than the worn out factory fox's.
 

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This appears to be the rear tire. Do you also have the measurements for the front? I would like to compare that to my 35 K02 to see how much additional height I would actually get if I go with the 37s.

Height of Tires is 34" 5/8th measured at 37psi from center of tire/wheel. (apologies camera was crooked but level was level)
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This appears to be the rear tire. Do you also have the measurements for the front? I would like to compare that to my 35 K02 to see how much additional height I would actually get if I go with the 37s.
Sure, first thing tomorrow (it's dark and cold outside)
 

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Wow fast reply. Thanks!!!
So. It measured at 35” at 37psi in the front. Which was confusing since it measured a 1/4” less a month ago. Same tape and level…So I measured the other front tire and same deal, 35” @ 37psi. I normally roll around at 32psi cold, but the tires weren’t cold, they were hot from riding on the highway. I usually see them at 36-38psi on the dashboard. The rears also measured 35” at 37psi. I’ll check them cold to see if they droop, or by how much
 

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Thanks. So I just did some measurements 33 1/8 front and 33 1/2 rear and 11" to the bottom of the front diff. BTW PSI is 34. I am heavier than you with lots of MC parts and a winch. So give or take I would get about 1.5 inches clearance with the upgrade to the 37s. Are your tired C or D rated?
 

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Thanks. So I just did some measurements 33 1/8 front and 33 1/2 rear and 11" to the bottom of the front diff. BTW PSI is 34. I am heavier than you with lots of MC parts and a winch. So give or take I would get about 1.5 inches clearance with the upgrade to the 37s. Are your tired C or D rated?
C load range, curb weight is 5660lbs currently with myself (190lb) and 3/4 tank fuel, just weighed in the CAT scale a few days ago.
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