Disabling ASS?

[JasonL83]

Hey all,

Does anyone know if bypassing auto start stop will create any possibly warranty issues? My light came on after being out of town for a week. It hadn't been driven for a week and was so dead, it couldn't be jumped. Replaced it with a 4 month old spare battery I had (don't ask, long story) and it started right up but with that ASS warning. I have ASS disabled with my TAZER (not teacher, oops, typo), so I never use it and would rather not pay $150 to replace that battery if I don't need.

Thanks!

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[Mr._Bill]

Hey all,

Does anyone know if bypassing auto start stop will create any possibly warranty issues? My light came on after being out of town for a week. It hadn't been driven for a week and was so dead, it couldn't be jumped. Replaced it with a 4 month old spare battery I had (don't ask, long story) and it started right up but with that ASS warning. I have ASS disabled with my teacher, so I never use it and would rather not pay $150 to replace that battery if I don't need.

Thanks!

You cannot disable or bypass the ESS System, it is always active. Methods are available to keep ESS from turning off the engine when it calls for it.

Any change to the factory configuration creates a potential warranty issue.

Being completely dead after a week indicates a bad battery. If these were the original batteries, they both probably needed replaced. Separate the grounds at the negative post of the Main Battery and separately charge each battery. Disconnect the IBS from the negative post for at least ten minutes to reset it. If the Aux Battery takes a charge and holds it above 12.7 with no load, you can get by with not replacing it yet.

If the truck is not regularly driven, it should have a Battery Maintainer connected while it is parked.

 

[JasonL83]

Thanks for the reply. They are the original batteries on a 2022 so you are probably correct and the batteries are probably due. I currently have a Tazer which disables the ASS(I prefer ASS, but I'm also a child at heart) by remembering the previous ASS setting each time you turn it off

I have seen videos showing how to completely bypass it by removing the negative battery terminal going to the auxiliary battery, removing fuse 42, and in some cases removing the associated hood switch for the ASS that detects if the hood is open.

I'm thinking I'll just replace the battery.

 

[Supazuk]

.......... started right up but with that ASS warning. I have ASS disabled with my teacher,

What kinda teachers do you have that need a warning before you disable ASS

 

[Supazuk]

Thanks for the reply. They are the original batteries on a 2022 so you are probably correct and the batteries are probably due. I currently have a Tazer which disables the ASS(I prefer ASS, but I'm also a child at heart) by remembering the previous ASS setting each time you turn it off

I have seen videos showing how to completely bypass it by removing the negative battery terminal going to the auxiliary battery, removing fuse 42, and in some cases removing the associated hood switch for the ASS that detects if the hood is open.

I'm thinking I'll just replace the battery.

 

[sharpsicle]

Thanks for the reply. They are the original batteries on a 2022 so you are probably correct and the batteries are probably due. I currently have a Tazer which disables the ASS(I prefer ASS, but I'm also a child at heart) by remembering the previous ASS setting each time you turn it off

I have seen videos showing how to completely bypass it by removing the negative battery terminal going to the auxiliary battery, removing fuse 42, and in some cases removing the associated hood switch for the ASS that detects if the hood is open.

I'm thinking I'll just replace the battery.

It might seem like a petty distinction, but you cannot bypass or disable the ESS system. The devices only remember the last state of the button, they don't do anything else. Even pulling the fuse and rerouting the battery cables does nothing for "getting rid of" ESS. All that is doing is getting rid of the 2nd battery, nothing more. That's an important distinction to remember, as it can still function with just the 1 battery and you can still get the warning light after all this (even if you never use it).

ESS will always be there no matter what you do.

 

[gammonspy]

I used this product. 10 min install, no permanent modification. essentially it turns off the ASS system as soon as you start the car (the off button illuminates). No issues. Very, very happy.

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/

 

[sharpsicle]

I used this product. 10 min install, no permanent modification. essentially it turns off the ASS system as soon as you start the car (the off button illuminates). No issues. Very, very happy.

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/

I take it you didn't read the thread? He already has a Tazer to do this...

 

[gammonspy]

I take it you didn't read the thread? He already has a Tazer to do this...

I guess I don't know what a Tazer is. I thought its what the police use...
tbh I also didn't see "Tazer". I see "teacher" which I guess I thoughgt is what I had in school to teach me stuff...LOL

 

[JasonL83]

Well that little typo caused a lot of humor. Lol

I edited my post to say Tazer. Got the batteries in, but light still coming. Saw somewhere that you should disconnect the main negative to reset the IBS. Hopefully this works. They also said you may have to charge a new battery. Hopefully this isn't the case as I don't was to buy yet another device at the moment to fix this. But I may in the future.

Thanks all!

 

[Lost1wing]

Well that little to cause a lot of humor. Lol

I edited my post to say Tazer. Got the batteries in, but light still coming. Saw somewhere that you should disconnect the main negative to reset the IBS. Hopefully this works. They also said you may have to charge a new battery. Hopefully this isn't the case as I don't was to buy yet another device at the moment to fix this. But I may in the future.

Thanks all!

When your batteries(plural) died, it sounds like you replaced the main with a good battery that wasn't fully charged. It also sounds like you did not fully charge the Aux battery when you placed the main. This is the reason for the Avengers light.

Yes! You will need to do an IBS reset. To do it correctly, you will need to disconnect and isolate both batteries. Charge both batteries with an AGM battery charger. While charging the batteries, disconnect the plug from the IBS( located at the main battery negative post).

Connect the aux negative cable to the main negative top plate, connect the ground to the top plate of the main negative and plug in the IBS connector. Wait for a few drive cycles for light to go away. You will notice a few icons missing from your radio displey. They will come back in a day or two.

 

[Gvsukids]

I take it you didn't read the thread? He already has a Tazer to do this...

Who reads a thread anyway?

 

[Rhino35]

Thanks for the reply. They are the original batteries on a 2022 so you are probably correct and the batteries are probably due. I currently have a Tazer which disables the ASS(I prefer ASS, but I'm also a child at heart) by remembering the previous ASS setting each time you turn it off

I have seen videos showing how to completely bypass it by removing the negative battery terminal going to the auxiliary battery, removing fuse 42, and in some cases removing the associated hood switch for the ASS that detects if the hood is open.

I'm thinking I'll just replace the battery.

Is your jeep still under warranty? if yes, let the dealership change your batteries, they did mine last last year (22JTM).

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I used this product. 10 min install, no permanent modification. essentially it turns off the ASS system as soon as you start the car (the off button illuminates). No issues. Very, very happy.

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/

ALL that it does is prevent it from stopping. It doesn't disable anything.
So, if you have warnings, you have:
A MAIN battery issue
An aux battery issue
Both
Or any one of about 3 dozen other issues that can cause the system to have problems.

"disabling it" (which is impossible, you simply prevent stops) is like putting a bandaid on an infected sore. You can't see it, but the cause of the sore is still there.
You can prevent it from shutting the engine off at a stop light, but the system is all still there, and monitoring things like always.. It simply won't shut down.
No device or software can actually disable ESS - all any of them can do is do a fake button press like you'd do, telling it to not shut the engine down.

When your batteries(plural) died, it sounds like you replaced the main with a good battery that wasn't fully charged. It also sounds like you did not fully charge the Aux battery when you placed the main. This is the reason for the Avengers light.

Yes! You will need to do an IBS reset. To do it correctly, you will need to disconnect and isolate both batteries. Charge both batteries with an AGM battery charger. While charging the batteries, disconnect the plug from the IBS( located at the main battery negative post).

Connect the aux negative cable to the main negative top plate, connect the ground to the top plate of the main negative and plug in the IBS connector. Wait for a few drive cycles for light to go away. You will notice a few icons missing from your radio displey. They will come back in a day or two.

This could well be a big part of the problems.
NEVER EVER install a battery that you haven't charged
These are two battery systems - never install one battery that is charged without charging the other...
Always charge both if replacing either one.

It's also possible that in the act of replacing the one battery if the cables were not properly separated and isolated from ground, the high current fuse array has a blown fuse.
When you disconnect the cables from the main battery to change it, your system is still live and if that positive cable touches things, pop!

 

[Supazuk]

I take it you didn't read the thread? He already has a Tazer to do this...

he originally wrote Teacher we knew it was a typo but aslo kept calling ESS ASS sooooo it brought the LOL's

Hey all,

Does anyone know if bypassing auto start stop will create any possibly warranty issues? My light came on after being out of town for a week. It hadn't been driven for a week and was so dead, it couldn't be jumped. Replaced it with a 4 month old spare battery I had (don't ask, long story) and it started right up but with that ASS warning. I have ASS disabled with my teacher, so I never use it and would rather not pay $150 to replace that battery if I don't need.

Thanks!

What kinda teachers do you have that need a warning before you disable ASS

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