Do Mopar Auxillary Switches Light Up When Pushed?

[REDcrabman]

Yes you absolutely can.

And you can track issues, check and reset error codes and more.

Thanks for the help. It's about $50 to get the BT OBD and the secure gate cable.?

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[Beemer533]

I got Alpha back when I had a Ram before the Gladiator and I did all kinds of things with it. Absolutely recommended (or Jscan). I'm not as familiar with Jscan, but I recall Alpha was pretty particular about the bluetooth adapter.

I tried a couple that didn't work reliably and eventually just got the MX+ they recommended. It wasn't the cheapest (more expensive now), but it works reliably..

Having said all that, I also have a Taser which I do like as it does a few things that aren't available with JScan and Alpha, primarily the live functions.

For me, the reverse lights at night rendered the backup camera nearly worthless, so that was a big feature. I know I could have done it with relays, etc but this was easy and I didn't have to get into the harness. I also get the ESS button off and some other things like idle up for winching and brake hold.

It's good to have options lol.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I got Alpha back when I had a Ram before the Gladiator and I did all kinds of things with it. Absolutely recommended (or Jscan). I'm not as familiar with Jscan, but I recall Alpha was pretty particular about the bluetooth adapter.

I tried a couple that didn't work reliably and eventually just got the MX+ they recommended. It wasn't the cheapest (more expensive now), but it works reliably..

Having said all that, I also have a Taser which I do like as it does a few things that aren't available with JScan and Alpha, primarily the live functions.

For me, the reverse lights at night rendered the backup camera nearly worthless, so that was a big feature. I know I could have done it with relays, etc but this was easy and I didn't have to get into the harness. I also get the ESS button off and some other things like idle up for winching and brake hold.

It's good to have options lol.

Idle speed up - using jscan -

I've got part of what I need for the license plate light kill when in reverse, using a very small relay, etc. that will fit inside a harness I'll make when I figure out what connectors I need for the license plate light harness itself. I'll tie into the tail light harness to catch the reverse signal. Just need the connector for the bumper harness/plate lights.
Since I have most of the stuff on hand already (except for finding the connectors for the bumper harness) it won't cost but maybe 10 bucks. (whatever the cost of the connectors for the bumper harness are - don't know the number for those yet)

 

[Beemer533]

Idle speed up - using jscan -

I've got part of what I need for the license plate light kill when in reverse, using a very small relay, etc. that will fit inside a harness I'll make when I figure out what connectors I need for the license plate light harness itself. I'll tie into the tail light harness to catch the reverse signal. Just need the connector for the bumper harness/plate lights.
Since I have most of the stuff on hand already (except for finding the connectors for the bumper harness) it won't cost but maybe 10 bucks. (whatever the cost of the connectors for the bumper harness are - don't know the number for those yet)

That's cool, I didn't know jscan had that option. I'll have to look and see if Alpha does just for kicks.

Either way, I have it mapped to one of the buttons on my steering wheel so I don't need to hook up anything when I would need to use it.

 

[Vanzano]

One comment, if you have the Tazer and wants to use any other ODB software like Jscan later, you don't need a security bypass cable. The tazer can act as one.

I know this because I have both.

The things I like about tazer, that are most important to me are the live functions:

- Hood alarm
- Turn cam
- 3rd brake light strobe
- and the new awesome security lock, that forces you to enter a PIN every time the vehicle turns on. Another deterrent agains thieves.

AlfaOBD is also cool, but Android only.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

One comment, if you have the Tazer and wants to use any other ODB software like Jscan later, you don't need a security bypass cable. The tazer can act as one.

I know this because I have both.

The things I like about tazer, that are most important to me are the live functions:

- Hood alarm
- Turn cam
- 3rd brake light strobe
- and the new awesome security lock, that forces you to enter a PIN every time the vehicle turns on. Another deterrent agains thieves.

Unless they pull the tazer. That pin only works while it's there.
Hood alarm - you can do via software as well. But then that's so easy to disable by pulling or cutting horn wires, etc.
So while the turn cam is cool for those who want it, and some other stuff, it's not a great security device. On the contrary, with it in place, security is bypassed.
It's not far off from leaving a security bypass cable in place 24/7. Anyone can connect to the OBD port and have their way.
Jeep thieves are very aware of tazer, count on it.

 

[Vanzano]

Unless they pull the tazer. That pin only works while it's there.
Hood alarm - you can do via software as well. But then that's so easy to disable by pulling or cutting horn wires, etc.
So while the turn cam is cool for those who want it, and some other stuff, it's not a great security device. On the contrary, with it in place, security is bypassed.
It's not far off from leaving a security bypass cable in place 24/7. Anyone can connect to the OBD port and have their way.
Jeep thieves are very aware of tazer, count on it.

I disagree. Security is about layering, so you are saying that having hood alarm/pin lock are not useful.

That's not true, the more security layers you can have, the better. As for the tazer being removed, for sure. Devices like the one below can help. But again, it's better than not having it.

Following your line of thought, at least, the thief would have to:

- Locate horn wires and cut it, while horn is active and driving attention
- Find a way to disable the ligthshow, that blinks all vehicle lights
- Locate my tazer JL, find a way to unplug it.

So... all of that by being caught by surprise, since he was not expecting for any of those security measures, with people looking at it.

So again, security is about layers. In no way having less layers make you safer.

As not being great for security and ODB, now you are implying that a Thief would be able to "somehow" do any security attack over ODB port, which if he wanted, he could do it anyway plugging his own security bypass cable. And that's a long stretch.

Most attacks you see these days, on the tech side, are key fob replays and against that specifically, the tazer pin would protect you more than a jeep that doesn't have it.

Just my 2 cents.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/tazer-shield/

 

[REDcrabman]

Guys the jobs done! Mopar switches installed and everything is tip-top. It took a little while after I turned on and off the vehicle a couple of times to finally bring up the Auxillary Switches in Uconnect after turning them on with JSCAN. Once they were on screen I still didn't have power to switches. Checked all fuses (good). Checked Orange wire under passenger side kick panel and that was the problem. Grab a small screw driver and pop the white plastic cap out of the connector. Take a good look at wire and reposition. Pop white cap back in and marry the two sides of the connector together and Tada! All good. Here are the links to products. Easy job. Don’t throw money at dealer.

https://store.mopar.com/oem-parts/mopar-auxiliary-switch-bank-silver-82215798ae. On sale $315

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZL4LRVK/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGB4873?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Also purchase VIN # in JSCAN $20.99

Total cost installed by myself, including tax = $430.50

Additional note: the plastic fittings that secure our dash panels are pretty weak. If you happen to bend a crack in one like I did on the steering column lower cover, just weld it up with a wire soldering gun. Look up plastic welding. Can get you back good as new, no worries. Cheers???

 

[REDcrabman]

Finish pictures.

 

[Minty JL]

I disagree. Security is about layering, so you are saying that having hood alarm/pin lock are not useful.

That's not true, the more security layers you can have, the better. As for the tazer being removed, for sure. Devices like the one below can help. But again, it's better than not having it.

Following your line of thought, at least, the thief would have to:

- Locate horn wires and cut it, while horn is active and driving attention
- Find a way to disable the ligthshow, that blinks all vehicle lights
- Locate my tazer JL, find a way to unplug it.

So... all of that by being caught by surprise, since he was not expecting for any of those security measures, with people looking at it.

So again, security is about layers. In no way having less layers make you safer.

As not being great for security and ODB, now you are implying that a Thief would be able to "somehow" do any security attack over ODB port, which if he wanted, he could do it anyway plugging his own security bypass cable. And that's a long stretch.

Most attacks you see these days, on the tech side, are key fob replays and against that specifically, the tazer pin would protect you more than a jeep that doesn't have it.

Just my 2 cents.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/tazer-shield/

I agree with you 100% about security.......its all about layers

I have added locking hood latches (Physical, think Layer 1 of the OSI model)

- I'm working on some other things too. I'm thinking of disabling the Passive entry merely to negate or mitigate the reply attack. (Application, think Layer 7 of ther OSI model)

- I will be adding an airhorn set up to replace the OEM horns 1) louder 2) I will re-route the wiring harness to prevent the easy snip and cut. (Again, another Physical layer)

- Activate Hood pin alarm and lightshow. If they chose to bust the hood locks....... a 110db airhorn will wake me up and the nice lightshow for effect.

I'll stop here, I have more to add but I'm drafting notes for a security thread here in the near future.......I just want it to be in order and organized.

 

[ecidiego]

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