RobbertCole
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- First Name
- Rob
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- May 10, 2021
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- Madison WI
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- 2020 Jeep Gladiator, 1997 Mustang GT
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Piss off?you realize that's worse right? now piss off
Opinion understood an respected. But here's a counterargument: They still make jeeps without air-conditioning (base sport trim Wranglers). Many of them (mine included) still have manual transmissions, and those with hard tops are still a pain to remove. Well, harder than my soft top TJ anyway. Many even still have roll up windows (Sports without the S package). After you drive any other modern vehicle, you notice immediately that these things still have next to no road manners haha. Back when manual with no ac was the norm on Jeeps, it was the norm on most other cars too though, so it wasn't unique to jeeps. I think most economy cars before the mid 1990s would have been similarly equiped. My beetle has no air-conditioning, a manual transmission, and poor road manners too, but as much as I want to lift it and go Baja, it's not a jeep. Of course, on the rare occasion I see another old bug on the road, we wave too. When I had a WRX, we also waved.The first Jeep I owned was a 1991 Wrangler Sahara. Then a 1994 Wrangler Sahara. I bought a Jeep because I grew up riding in my brothers 2 CJ7s. The tops were all a pain to lower or remove. There was no air conditioning. Almost all were manuals. They lacked features and refinement. And you knew when you saw another Jeep that poor idiot has also prioritized capability over comfort. Competence off-road versus manners on the road.
I agree with you, that those lack of options are possible. They are also the minority. Where as, in years past, the options were an automatic and A/C.Opinion understood an respected. But here's a counterargument: They still make jeeps without air-conditioning (base sport trim Wranglers). Many of them (mine included) still have manual transmissions, and those with hard tops are still a pain to remove. Well, harder than my soft top TJ anyway. Many even still have roll up windows (Sports without the S package). After you drive any other modern vehicle, you notice immediately that these things still have next to no road manners haha. Back when manual with no ac was the norm on Jeeps, it was the norm on most other cars too though, so it wasn't unique to jeeps. I think most economy cars before the mid 1990s would have been similarly equiped. My beetle has no air-conditioning, a manual transmission, and poor road manners too, but as much as I want to lift it and go Baja, it's not a jeep. Of course, on the rare occasion I see another old bug on the road, we wave too. When I had a WRX, we also waved.
Cool. By the way, my WRX was an STI as well. I usually just say WRX when talking to non-subie folks, because to them, STi means something different haha. And if they still dont know what it is, I tell them, "an Impreza, but fast". And my wife had a regular WRX (an 08). Fun as heck cars! I often thought about lifting my STI, just to buck the trends and make it a "real" rally car.I agree with you, that those lack of options are possible. They are also the minority. Where as, in years past, the options were an automatic and A/C.
The larger point was the buyer pool. It was, obviously, considerably smaller. Less Jeeps on the road and the majority were manuals, soft tops, and no air con. My Sahara was $18k MSRP. Not that pricing matters and I don't care that the prices for top line trims are $40k plus. Fine by me. It's the difference in buyer mentality and type of buyer.
I also had a WRX. And an STi. Similarly, small buyer pool. Not the most robust interior. Manual. Not overly comfortable. You knew when you saw another WRX or STi that person had prioritized certain things over others. Capability being the primary.
And it is just a wave. I don't care what other people do. If someone waves, I wave. It's just watered down, as most things like this become.
Yup. I sometimes get waves from motorcycles too. Last week, I had a moment with a guy on sport bike at a red light, as we both fell victim to a downpour (me without roof/doors, of course).What floors me….especially in today’s day and age…is how many Jeeps wave to me when I’m in my cruiser. And yes, I wave to Jeep’s both in my Gladiator and cruiser. My Wife chuckles at me. I don’t care. I’m a friendly guy. Until I’m not.
Regardless, I love people and when I’m at work I drive a lot of back roads and love waving to people I don’t know.
I really like the camaraderie in the Jeep community, it’s like I’m at work, regardless of the agency we all wave to each other. Even those hose draggers. Love those guys and gals. It’s fun having a Jeep (Gladiators are becoming more popular up here but I still rarely see them on the roads whereas there are Wranglers all over the place) and getting waves is fun. And when other Jeep drivers don’t wave? Who cares? It’s still fun.
Love the YJ! I had a 95 and sold it/gave it to my father in law before he passed away. I then passed it on to my brother in law and I am waiting for it to come back after my nephew is done with it. It is almost completely unmodified still.Yup, this was bought new in 95. The red YJ that is.
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