First responder - Chrysler/Jeep/Ram drops Nurses.

[WhiteJT8541]

At this point and time can the mods just close this thread? The op complained his wife didn’t get her discount because Jeep stopped offering it. Now they have it. Happy ending for all.
For future thought, visit Walter Reed, Arlington, or a number of VA facilities before you call a non-combat healthcare worker someone on the “front line”.

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[ArmyJeepGuy666]

At this point and time can the mods just close this thread? The op complained his wife didn’t get her discount because Jeep stopped offering it. Now they have it. Happy ending for all.
For future thought, visit Walter Reed, Arlington, or a number of VA facilities before you call a non-combat healthcare worker someone on the “front line”.

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[kcchiefs]

Uh... good job being a nurse and all but until this whole Covid thing neither doctors nor nurses have ever been first responders. To be a first responder you have to be someone who arrives on the scene FIRST. That means law enforcement, fire, and EMS. No one expects a nurse or doctor to drive to a scene, they come TO YOU secondarily. They also consider 911 personnel first responders for this program.

I find it weird that people get entitled about these things but it really speaks to our times and is just par for the course anymore. If they had a "hero" discount or an "essential" discount... sure, along with the burger flippers, truck drivers, and almost everyone else. I find it weird that so many people in the healthcare industry right now are screaming about not being safe when it's a part of your job and literally what you signed up for.

When someone's job gets a bit difficult or out of the norm, but still a part of their description they say how it's not fair and they didn't sign up for it. Guess what though? Being a nurse means you're going to be one of the primary people exposed when things like this start to happen, and people expect you to keep going because it's what you're paid for. I get that you don't want to be there and feel like you deserve more in way of recognition or something, but maybe dial it back a bit? Again, this just feels entitled and makes others who take their job seriously angry.

I am in the US Army, 26 years and going, been an EMT, RN and now Nurse Practitioner. I worked for the fire department as an NP. If someone wants to give me a discount or free money, I have no qualms. It is not entitlement, the company feels certain people deserve discounts. I choose my profession because I believe in service to my country and people. I took the GIbill does that make me entitled, or it is something I earned.
Bashing an RN for asking for a discount that other car companies offer is non-sense to me. RN''s can be first responders, we respond to people in need. One of the most ethical jobs in the US, every year. Please do not spew hate at RN who may save your life one day, regardless of views. We. do not judge you, when we take care of you.

 

[kcchiefs]

I always felt this was really weird for people to say and now it's as synonymous and passing as "hi" to me. It's just an obligatory thing people add into conversation that means nothing. My dad is a retired marine of 20 years and I'm very proud of him for it. If I come across someone else who is a retired marine I say "Oo-Rah! Devil Dog!" and they get it. If it's someone else I let them know my father is a retired marine and acknowledge their service in an inferior branch (jokingly) by giving them shit for it lol. I'd love to go in but can't for medical reasons. I just tried this last May for the final time, and they still said no

My dad hates the random recognition too and feels it's no genuine. While he doesn't expect anything for free, as you don't either (the right way to go about it) he's appreciative when people give him some sort of discount. There's never any random "Karen" temper tantrum thrown like this because he felt he was entitled to something others that were in a related field got.

So, as to not be patronizing to you I won't say "thank you for your service", but I'll say, I see you and I recognize what you've done, it's appreciated (and maybe envied a bit).

So the GI bill that paid for my college is entitlement?? When people say thank you for service, I reply thank you for your support. It is not entitlement, it is earned. Other car companies offer discounts to nurses, so why shouldn't jeep?? I took my military discount for Jeep, I took the GI bill, it was earned. Are you not going to take $500 if you qualify. Entitlement has nothing to do with it.
I find it odd you state your dads accomplished, while great, not your own. I have been in the Army 26 years and counting. I think it great you tried to join, but do not put this person down.

 

[kcchiefs]

OP just sounds upset they didn't buy it sooner.

Oh and "front lines"? You have no idea what those words mean until you find yourself in the middle of a warzone, in a hostile country, getting shot at/ mortared/blown up day and night. If you think being a nurse right now is bad...try being a nurse/combat medic IN A WARZONE. Nonetheless, even as a combat veteran I never expect to get a discount. If they have it, cool. Am I going to go out of my way to get one, or make it known that I've served in combat...No. Do not be one of those entitled individuals. No one is entitled to anything.



Remember: feet and knees together.

I never expect anything either. I have been what you have been and still going. But are you saying you did not earn your GI bill?? That is how I became a nurse, so should I not have taken that?? Is that entitlement. Did you take your Jeep discount??

 

[kcchiefs]

Started researching last month in June and finally was able to locate and work out the specifics with a local dealer to take delivery of an in stock unit. First, I have owned from 42 to 2003 no less than five Wrangler/CJ2A/CJ7 and this would be my sixth. I have a love of these from when I first started driving. I was so disappointed to find out when filling out all the paperwork that Nurses were dropped off the First Responder rebate that FCA has. What a marketing mistake this is, hello and an insult to the entire medical field. They left military, policy, firefighter, and EMTs on the rebate program though. I am sorry to say with our increase positive cases of Covid on the rise everyday now w/ some states reporting over 10k a day and hospitals to the point of being not able to take sick Covid patients and you take medical professionals off a small rebate. Now I nearly walked away - I seriously considered buying a different brand of truck all together. Not that the $500 was going to impact my purchasing ability but more out of principal. If there is a profession right now that truly is at the front line and is a "First Responder" it is a Nurse.
Something I posted on social media the other day I'll share,

"These are times we are experiencing so much uncertainty and having to answer and ask some difficult questions. I wanted to share some thoughts with everyone.
Yesterday I went to urgent care and experienced some of the best medical treatment I have ever had. Over the last few days I have been experiencing some dizziness, not sure what that's all about. Bought a blood pressure cuff and my pressure is much higher than normal. That lead me to having things checked out, after all our heart keeps us alive and I want to take good care of it!
I had an EKG test, a full exam and blood work completed. I met six different people through the course of my day in urgent care. A nurse that had initial screening questions, a receptionist that checked me in, the EKG technician, a nurse that works with the doctor, the doctor on call, and finally the lab technician.
Each one of these people were professional, positive and gave me great care. The entire time I felt very emotional knowing that each one of these people were there for me and the rest of the patients in urgent care that day. A thought occurred to me,
each one of these health care workers have family, some might have children, spouses and others that they are going home to tonight. I started to look at each of these people in a different light.
Firefighters, when there is a burning building they train on how to put out fires, how to walk into a building as safely as possible and come out safely. After all, they deserve to go home to their families.
Now this nurse stands in front of me, gowned, masked, face shield. Knowing that although I was there because of increased pressure that I might be carrying Covid-19. I started to see her as a soldier as a modern day hero. Putting her patients life in front of her own. Each time she goes into a room she is entering into the burning embers of the building just like the firefighter. Her attitude and reply when I thanked her for her compassion and willingness was,
"I trained for this."
I am humbled as I write this, I am amazed by the bravery and compassion that everyone of those professionals showed me yesterday. I am moved by their ever giving nature.
If you are reading this now and you have gotten this far I emplore you to wear a mask when out in public. If for some reason you feel you can not, wear a face shield. Please do not take the position that wearing a mask infringes on your rights or that no one can tell you what you can or can not do. Please do not read into the propaganda that says masks are not effective. I choose to wear a mask when I am away from my home for several reasons,
To protect you, your loved ones, your spouse and your children. After all, you deserve to go home safely!
I wear a mask to reduce the patient care that is needed during this trying time.
I wear a mask to honor the commitment of every health care worker today and in the future.
I wear a mask because even if I save one life it was worth it. If one more Mom or Dad gets to go home safely it was worth it!
You have a civic duty - wear a mask. We are fighting everyday, I know you would defend our country against foreign enemies. Covid is that enemy, fight like our lives depend on it!"


Now FCA - I am hoping that someone will be monitoring this will chime in. Think of how many hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers you could tap into and really honor them. Covid is affecting everyone in the world in one way or another. Think of the opportunity and marketing that could leverage the relationship -

Something better than $500 -
"Because your at the frontline everyday."
"Because your helping us to fight Covid."
"Because your doing more when we need it."
"As Jeep has been there for this country and you are for us. Jeep for a limited time will......"

Anyhow, it's worth mentioning that I was beyond disappointed and I am sure I am not alone.

@JeepCares

Thank you for being a nurse. I think your argument is valid.

 

[kcchiefs]

So, I’m retired military and 100% disabled from combat. I don’t expect a discount from anyone. I honestly feel weird when people say thank you for your service. If they offer it, cool. I chose that profession. Nobody owes anyone a discount. Besides, you save a ton more by giving Tread Lightly $100 and getting 2 vehicles a year at 1% below invoice.

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Let’s get the definition right. Hospital workers are NOT “First Responders.” I am a healthcare provider in an ED and I am not a first responder. First responders are police, firefighters and EMS. They respond FIRST and then bring them to me at the ED. So if you want to create a new discount for “front line healthcare worker” or just healthcare worker I’m OK with that. But please do not mistake what I do with what real first responders do as it is a completely different role. And I will add that since all of this crap started I have not had even a single COVID patient brought to my ED via EMS. We have had some in our ED but they have been normal transport from other facilities or family and even self transport. So, at least in my experience, first responders haven’t had much to do as far as direct COVID related care. Even if you come to my ED and you are a suspected COVID case you get punted out of the ED and sent back home, up to the floor or unit depending on severity so even as an ED provider I don’t have a ton of direct COVID related care.

Up to floor where the RN is. That takes care of the COVID pt 24 hours a day. You must not get a lot patients in your ED, if you have not had a COVID pt brought in by EMS. Please let this person have their views, without putting them down. I have been in the Army 26 years and counting and I am an NP.

 

[kcchiefs]

As a first responder and a military veteran, I do not ask for or expect a discount for anything. I tend to shop at a lot of local mom and pop stores that offer discounts to first responders and military and very rarely take one. I even refuse free coffee or meals when in uniform. I am a customer and the business I am frequenting is trying to turn a profit to pay their bills as well as their employees. Especially at a time like this when things are hard for many small business owners. Unless it's a major purchase, like from Lowes, HD, etc. I do not even mention it. I chose the career field just like someone chose to be a doctor or a nurse. Nothing special about what I did or am doing. And the entitlement of individuals today about not getting discount on a $5 cup of coffee or $25 meal is ridiculous. While I am sure there are veterans on a fixed income that can benefit from that extra $2 in their pocket, I am not one of them. After 5 years in the Middle East I am thankful for running water, a roof over my head and my kick ass Jeep Gladiator. No offense to anyone that feels differently. We can agree to disagree.

What about the GI bill?? You take your military discount on a major purchase, so you took your military discount on your Jeep?? I do not get your argument at all. You take the discount but get mad at someone else who wants the discount??

 

[WhiteJT8541]

What about the GI bill?? You take your military discount on a major purchase, so you took your military discount on your Jeep?? I do not get your argument at all. You take the discount but get mad at someone else who wants the discount??

I paid into the GIBill in more ways than one. Getting a benefit offered to you by the government for your service, as part of your contract, is not being entitled. You are also missing the point. The op isn’t a nurse or in the healthcare field at all. His wife is and he got mad they removed nurses from the first responder deal when she is in no way a first responder or frontline workers. First responders are generally not nurses unless, like yourself, they run with first responder units (EMS flight nurse, etc.) and no one is bashing RN’s or medical personnel in general. We are simply stating, unless they work for specialized units nurses are neither on the front lines or first responders. An 18D is a first responder and on the front lines, a nurse at Walter Reed is neither. Complete difference. And no, I didn’t take the discount on my Jeep as I didn’t know about it and when I found out I didn’t complain about it. However, if I did take it it would have been because I qualified as either a veteran or current first responder. You’re thanking someone for being a nurse that isn’t a nurse and someone who complained about his nurse wife not getting the discount because they removed the nurse from the first responder discount. In her case, from his post, she isn’t a first responder.

 

[kcchiefs]

I paid into the GIBill in more ways than one. Getting a benefit offered to you by the government for your service, as part of your contract, is not being entitled. You are also missing the point. The op isn’t a nurse or in the healthcare field at all. His wife is and he got mad they removed nurses from the first responder deal. First responders are generally not nurses unless, like yourself, they run with first responder units (EMS flight nurse, etc.)And no, I didn’t take the discount on my Jeep as I didn’t know about it and when I found out I didn’t complain about it. You’re thanking someone for being a nurse that isn’t a nurse and someone who complained about his nurse wife not getting the discount because they removed the nurse from the first responder discount. In her case, from his post, she isn’t a first responder.

Matters not who the nurse is. If they both buy the Jeep. My point is you take a discount at Home Depot and then lecture another person about a discount. However, it seems the public thinks RN"s are first reponders, as most car companies added them in that group. RN responding to Code Blue on a Medical Floor,= first responder. I have had way more codes as an RN than EMT.

 

[kcchiefs]

Matters not who the nurse is. If they both buy the Jeep. My point is you take a discount at Home Depot and then lecture another person about a discount. However, it seems the public thinks RN"s are first reponders, as most car companies added them in that group. RN responding to Code Blue on a Medical Floor,= first responder. I have had way more codes as an RN than EMT.

I admit I did not read his whole post, just the people lecturing him. Seems mean. This not a value that I adhere too. You as a veteran should get this.

 

[WhiteJT8541]

Matters not who the nurse is. If they both buy the Jeep. My point is you take a discount at Home Depot and then lecture another person about a discount. However, it seems the public thinks RN"s are first reponders, as most car companies added them in that group. RN responding to Code Blue on a Medical Floor,= first responder. I have had way more codes as an RN than EMT.

I didn’t lecture about a discount. I said I take one when offered on major purchases because I do in fact qualify for the discount. The OP was mad they removed nurses from the first responder discount and went on a rant about how they are first responders or frontline workers. Remind you he purchased the Jeep after they removed nurses and felt that he/they should be entitled to it. This isn’t about you or what you’ve done or accomplished. You are also comparing apples to oranges. We can agree to disagree. Bottom line is his wife, in her current role, as he described it, is neither a first responder or frontline worker. In addition, public perception does not equate reality. With 26 years in the Army I am going to assume you’ve deployed to combat. If so, coming home to the public perception (anti-war groups) that we are baby killers and murderers does not make it true. I also would like to avoid getting into a p!$$ing contest over a matter of opinion. We can agree to disagree.

 

[kcchiefs]

I didn’t lecture about a discount. I said I take one when offered on major purchases because I do in fact qualify for the discount. The OP was mad they removed nurses from the first responder discount and went on a rant about how they are first responders or frontline workers. Remind you he purchased the Jeep after they removed nurses and felt that he/they should be entitled to it. This isn’t about you or what you’ve done or accomplished. You are also comparing apples to oranges. We can agree to disagree. Bottom line is his wife, in her current role, as he described it, is neither a first responder or frontline worker. In addition, public perception does not equate reality. With 26 years in the Army I am going to assume you’ve deployed to combat. If so, coming home to the public perception (anti-war groups) that we are baby killers and murderers does not make it true.

Fair point, I will say I have never experienced anti-war groups. I've seen them on TV. However, I have never felt more welcome to come home from deployments than now. People got out of there way to welcome me back. As Johnny Cash said in Vietnam, "I think my country gotta little off track, it took them 25 years to welcome me back. Drive on." Public has changed on veterans.

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