Front Springs bowed!!

[ShadowsPapa]

I have not, they are currently about a 1/2” dropped from being completely bottomed out. Also as a side note. Before the alignment my bump stops were hitting the springs but my springs were not hitting the bump stops

I admit, I can be dense at times - but if we are shaking hands - you would be saying I'm touching you but you aren't touching me?

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[2020GladRubicon]

Just a few other photos.

does the front wheel look more towards the front?

My ACOS bump stops are currently providing a 1/2” lift. My truck sits pretty level. Unsure if this is playing a roll in the current issue.

 

[2020GladRubicon]

My gut told me - caster was set using either just uppers or just lower and they didn't level the axle. It's tipped or - shifted so it's not directly under the top spring seat. It really looks like the axle is shifted, like you describe, and not right straight below the upper spring seat.

I am going to bring it back to the shop tomorrow. I am trying to find faults with my truck but after some help from y’all I am starting to believe it was not properly aligned. I paid extra for them to adjust the control arms as well.

 

[Bonanza]

The caster looks visually super far off.

 

[sts90]

Looks like you have been Terror Flexed… Sorry Dad Joke opening there.

They were just bought out last April. A local shop I know noticed a quality drop and would not install certain items from Teraflex. This happens often before buyouts to improve profitability. I understand that is not helpful in your case. I would take the jeep to a certified off road shop different from installer for inspection on items others have pointed out.

 

[OHJeeper]

Thank you for the detailed post. It was very easy to follow.

Another member just brought up my bump stops, they are about a 1/2” from being bottomed out (meaning they are currently adjusting the ride height by 1/2” lift). I left it with a 1/2 spacing due to the fact we had to cut the original bump stops off.

I would look at the relationship between the spring perch and the bump stops both linearly (can you draw a straight line between them) - This is what @ShadowsPapa is referring to.

... also are they at all parallel (or close)? To me it looks like the lower perch is angled much higher at the back and lower in the front (a result of the arc in my first post). The isolator is not really meant to correct misalignment of the perch/axle angle, but since by their nature springs are not level at the bottom because of their coil, the isolator makes them rest flat against the perch. Do you have a way to check your pinion angle? That would also be a good reference.

This is my opinion, but the bow correction isolators are a bandaid to correct misaligned axle/perch angle.

You have both upper and lower adjustable CA's - use them to get the axle in the right place.

 

[OHJeeper]

Just a few other photos.

does the front wheel look more towards the front?

My ACOS bump stops are currently providing a 1/2” lift. My truck sits pretty level. Unsure if this is playing a roll in the current issue.

Ok, weird... but this angle makes it looks like your axle is too far forward... the opposite of what I was saying earlier.

Here's what they look like from the factory. Look at the center cap in relation to the middle fender rivet. Then look at your pic.

(of course camera angle DO make a difference, so take all of this with a grain of salt)

On the springs, it almost looks like they're coming off the bump stop already at a weird angle. Are you sure the isolators are installed correctly?

Here are my MOPAR 2" springs for comparison. Look how the bump stop is right in the middle of the spring (and there is a teraflex 1.5" puck in there, too)

And in this pic I'm on jack stands, so my axle has traveled down quite a bit (look at the LC angle and the sway bar)

If you had a shop do this, I'd take it back and have them start over. Something is off, big time.

 

[Tommyd]

Are you sure the springs are seated correctly? And is the axle properly centered under the truck? Something isn't aligned right.

His end links look straight up and down does that mean his axle is centered? I know mine were crooked before I centered mine. Just wondering.

 

[Jackpaul]

Hi y’all!

I have a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with the following mods

- ACOS front bump stops
- Bilstein 5100 Rear shocks
- Terra-flex 3.5” coils with upgraded sway links
- Fox Racing Stabilizer
- RPM 2” aluminum steering kit
- Synergy adjustable Front track bar with relocation bracket
- Synergy Sector Shaft Brace
- Front Upper & Lower Terraflex Alpine adjustable control arms
- Metal cloak correction pads

I am having an issue with the my front springs they are bowing heavily forward (see photos) I just recently installed correction pads & got my truck aligned. My bump stops are now hitting my springs.

Any thoughts?

You have an adjustable track bar AND relocation bracket?

 

[OHJeeper]

To me it's hard to tell because the bow of the spring creates sort of an optical illusion. But, I didn't notice this before - his links look too long. The sway bar at rest is angled up - if his springs compress another couple of inches, his sway bar end links are going to hit the fender liner up by the shock mount:

 

[ShadowsPapa]

One reason I like the synergy springs is that they are guaranteed to not bow, and they manufacture them with a totally flat bottom. They provide a pad to go on the axle perch for the spring to rest on.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You have an adjustable track bar AND relocation bracket?

Nothing wrong with that if it's adjusted. The one is to level the track bar out and take some of the "swing" out of it, and it can be centered with the other.

Brackets, IMO, are to correct geometry. Then adjust or fine tune it with the track bar.
Same with control arms - I'd use adjustable control arms and use the brackets to correct the geometry - move the frame ends down to keep them parallel. the adjustable control arms can dial in caster as you watch.

 

[rharr]

Let's throw some more random opinions into the mix. Looks like his shocks are short and his spring is under more preload than intended at rest. Your springs should be almost fully relaxed at full extention. What does the spring look like when the axle is unloaded?

Is the shock vertical or is it at an angle? Aka the bottom is forward of the top?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Let's throw some more random opinions into the mix. Looks like his shocks are short and his spring is under more preload than intended at rest. Your springs should be almost fully relaxed at full extention. What does the spring look like when the axle is unloaded?

Sounds more like an observation......... which can be useful.

 

[OHJeeper]

Looks like his shocks are short and his spring is under more preload than intended at rest.

LOL, I thought about that, too but wanted to stay focused on the axle position. Then I saw the sway bar angle... then the shock... then....

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