I wish those videos had the list of tires for each vehicle. Wonder what worked best there.They made those obstacles look WAY harder than they are in real life. This is my LJ on 33s on the same first ledge in the picture.
They also didn't make it up even half of mabell and only ran blues/greens at field n forest. Was pretty disappointed to see such built rigs not do well up here. I think they might have been more accustomed to west coast wheeling...
The JTs in those videos did look amazing tho
The white JT is crate Dana 60's f/r with hydro assist on 40" Nitto trail grapplers. Same with the PSC red gladiator. I'm pretty sure almost all of them are running the same 40" Nittos. The white PSC JL is prorock 60 f, prorock 80 r.
A good portion of the blame might be the Nitto's. This is my buddy in his JKU on 33" mrts locked f/r walking gatekeeper at mabell so the wheelbases are comparable
If you see a Destroyer Grey Rubicon driving around Rock Hill after late December - It's probably me!
Well vehicle/size designs of 15+ years ago are more capable can fit down trails take more lines IMO. The LJ rubicon is probably the most capable Jeep ever made if only I could find a good price on one. I love the wheelbase. Newer stuff is all pretty much full-size.They made those obstacles look WAY harder than they are in real life. This is my LJ on 33s on the same first ledge in the picture.
They also didn't make it up even half of mabell and only ran blues/greens at field n forest. Was pretty disappointed to see such built rigs not do well up here. I think they might have been more accustomed to west coast wheeling...
The JTs in those videos did look amazing tho
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Oof solid hit - better than getting sucked passenger into the ledge! I can't believe none of the way alife rigs managed to miss tagging the ledge especially in the slick conditions.Well vehicle/size designs of 15+ years ago are more capable can fit down trails take more lines IMO. The LJ rubicon is probably the most capable Jeep ever made if only I could find a good price on one. I love the wheelbase. Newer stuff is all pretty much full-size.
First time I ran it in my Old Tacoma TRD I did it with just sliders and skinny mud terrains, never got winched. I crushed my stock front bumper on that tree on the first ledge though
interesting.....wonder what the JL guys were running.
I cover a lot of rough trail on my mountain ranch... and after seeing early vids disparaging the JTs breakover... I expected the worst! In a month of driving rough, and often, no trail... I have never had an issue with breakover! And mine is still the stock LE (Rubi). Just pick a proper line, and the JT will walk over anything! If you belly up... odds are you picked a bad line! I’ve been especially surprised, when crawling over a particularly high obstacle, how, when I take it at an angle, with sway bar disconnected, the flex just floats the trucks belly right over it! ;{I've recently watched several NITTO and EVO off roading youtube videos with guys wheeling a mix of JK, JL and JT and I must say there were several tough obstacles that the JLs struggled with and the JTs didn't. It looked like while the JL with shorter wheelbase didn't rub the rocks as much, the JT may have gotten more of the weight (front end) up over the obstacle and got more traction.
I guess my point being, after watching over 2 hours of modded JT's wheeling, there are times where JL is better, and times where JT is better. AND both are certainly capable of tackling some rough trail.
This has been my experience as well for the most part.
Bad relative to what? Compared to a slightly modified TJ/XJ yeah its not going to perform the best at least dollar for dollar comparison, but relative to every single other off the production line pickup truck it will be an absolute beast.
